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In the past I've used Griots and use Chemical Guys now for prevention but there are things that'll kill leather regardless how you maintain it and the biggest culprit is denim.
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Then warm seats of possible, use oil, I used Colorplus products, and rub in with cotton cloth, or using plastic glove.
Use cotton or microfiber towel and remove any excessive oil
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Leave for day or two, then unwrap and used cotton or microfiber towel and remove any excessive oil.
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In the past I've used Griots and use Chemical Guys now for prevention but there are things that'll kill leather regardless how you maintain it and the biggest culprit is denim.
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FWIW, on paint finished leathers you have to be really careful using "oils" to treat them - if they've got anything petroleum based in them, you could really cause some serious problems...
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In the past I've used Griots and use Chemical Guys now for prevention but there are things that'll kill leather regardless how you maintain it and the biggest culprit is denim.
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It worked better but the stains are really stubborn.
I have an 03 C4S (88k miles) with black comfort seats.
1. The interior is in surprisingly good shape but I have noticed some cracking on the bottom bolstering. Is there any procedure and/or products to treat the leather?
2. I've noticed the driver side lumbar support is slightly worn through. How do I replace or spruce it up?
Absolutely! I have a 99 996 that had worn leather on seats e brake and shift ****. Used dye from
https://www.seatdoctors.com/
and it was easy and turned out amazing. Sorry I didn't get any seat pics.
I have had great results with leatherique. It’s a two part system where you condition the leather first and then clean it.
https://www.autogeek.net/leatherique-kit.html
I used Leatherique with zero results. How did you get it to work on our seats (which are painted/sealed)? Mine simply sat on top of the seat paint instead of soaking in, because it can�t soak in to sealed leather.
Porsche seats are semi aniline dyed leather. They still absorb oil and water. The following page gives a great overview of the application process, watch the video. I have 3 different cars that this really was a night and day difference in the leather. Make sure you rub in the rejuvenator oil in by hand and leave your car in the sun for several hours. You might need to do this a few times before you you use the pristine clean. It really pulls the oil and grime out of the leather.
https://www.esotericcarcare.com/leat...restine-clean/
The dye system that VeniziaVol would probably be your best bet if it's been worn through, You'd have to do the entire seat rather than just a panel(in this case a bolster) or try your hand at color matching. If you have cracking, that's a different problem in itself because the foam has started to lose it's full form and the leather will wrinkle in spaces where the foam is less dense. In the past I've used Griots and use Chemical Guys now for prevention but there are things that'll kill leather regardless how you maintain it and the biggest culprit is denim. If you plan on using a conditioner and/or cleaner no, I'd suggest you work around the high wear area and try not to push too much material into the leather surface.
I�m pretty sure that only the Natural Leather seat option gets you semi-aniline seating, which is why those cars show wear so much more readily than ones without that option. Otherwise they are painted surfaces which means products like Leatherique do nothing.
I read them all three years ago which is what spurred me to try it. Didn�t work on Full Leather Graphite Grey, even two individual applications and sitting in the Georgia July sun for 48+ hours.
I agree. Clean the seats very well with a leather cleaner. Let it dry overnight. Then warm seats of possible, use oil, I used Colorplus products, and rub in with cotton cloth, or using plastic glove. Then, wrap the seats in Saran Wrap. Let it soak in a day or two. Once wrap is removed, if oil didn’t fully penetrate, oil again and wrap. Leave for day or two, then unwrap and used cotton or microfiber towel and remove any excessive oil. This will soften the leather.
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Porsche seats are semi aniline dyed leather."
No, most of them are not (including savanna beige). There are exceptions ("natural leathers") but they're few and far between - probably due to cost. Most Porsche leathers are the "painted" type finish. If you say Leatherique worked for you - that's great
I wouldn't use it on my seats...
Sounds like two different situations -
One is dirty/dried out leather, but with the color layer intact - I used the Leatherique 2-step treatment on mine (savanna beige) -- the dash and low-wear areas like the back seats and trim panels cleaned up nicely and came out fine.
The other is when the color layer is worn or damaged like you see on Veneziavol's shift **** and brake - where the leather is down to the black/grey. In that case Leatherique won't help, and you have to go with a dye. Or professional help.
Not being a professional, I'm working through the high wear areas on mine (shift ****, parking brake, door pulls....seats) with a kit from Leather World. Starting with the small parts, shift **** came out pretty good, getting a consistent result on the door pulls is proving a bit tricky. Steering wheel and seats are up next. The kit comes with crack filler to fill in the usual bolster damage. Haven't gotten that far yet.
That looks great!
Your �before� e brake looks exactly like mine does now.
I just ordered the Colourlock leather fresh set ( cleaner+dye+protectant) for Porsche graphite grey.
Hopefully it turns out as good as yours
I have been using lexol cleaner and conditioner (in sequence) but I have some deep wrinkles or creases and dry spots. Although these treatments look like great options any experience with dealing with dry spots?
I had similar problems. Two small holes in the driver seat (side lumbar and seat bottom), as well as some cracking in both seats. I also had to replace the driver seat cushion which had totally failed. Did this while repairing the seat heaters in the driver seat.
I was thinking of trying to fill and dye the seats myself, but found a local guy to do the work. He charged me $100 for the driver seat and $70 for the passenger (less work on that one). Probably the best $170 I have spent on the car lately. A few photos to illustrate:
Before on driver seat
Hole in driver seat bottom cushion
Hole in side bolster
Passenger seat about to go back in
Passenger seat bottom cushion after
I've used Leatherworld tech, and Seat Doctor dyes with equally good results - see here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...therworld.html
and here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...n-a-996-a.html
Lexol is a great leather conditioner that I use on many different products, including shoes, bags, etc. I use it as my top-up between Leatherique treatments.
-Matt
So, looking back at some earlier posts in this thread... There are (at least) two REALLY DIFFERENT issues being discussed here. As such, they require REALLY DIFFERENT approaches to address them. 1) Maintenance/re-vitalization - this is within the purview of products like Lexol, Zymol,etc. etc. etc. and even Leatherique for the far gone cases (and especially for natural/analine dyed leathers).
2) Re-Finish - this is for the "Paint Finished" or "Sealed" type Leathers (most common in our 996's). The nice thing about this type of finish is that it is highly repairable/re-finishable and cleanable. It's actually even possible & fairly easy to change the color or shade of your seats if you so wish (obviously you could do it any leather/vinyl/plastic part - it just depends on how much work you want to put in). FWIW, on paint finished leathers you have to be really careful using "oils" to treat them - if they've got anything petroleum based in them, you could really cause some serious problems...
I have the Metropol full leather option. What do folks use to "touch up" minor/medium scuffs in the leather, mostly in areas on the door cards (looks like marks from someones ring)? I was thinking of Meltonian Shoe Cream, in Imperial Blue, as it looks the closest to a color match. Anyone else use shoe polish or cream to accomplish this?
Thanks.
Shoe polish rubs off. Your significant other will blow a fuse when some of your door card stains their white sleeve. Use a leather dye from a company like Leatherworld, Seat Dr or Colourlock. They match your interior and work very well for a long time. I just did my horrific Volvo seats after watching some Colourlock and YouTube videos and reading dporto and a few other detailed posts on leather refurb. Small repairs are quick and easy if your prep technique is solid and you use a quality color product. The magic is real!
Hopefully this isn�t too much of a thread jack but anyone have any recommendations on removing these stains? I have no clue what they�re from. The prior owner had some professional work done to it but it remains in places.
I�ve progressively ramped up the aggressiveness of my approach. So far, I�ve tried Chemical guys leather cleaner which was only slightly effective even after tons of scrubbing with horse hair brush. Next, I tried Sonax Profiline leather cleaner. It worked better but the stains are really stubborn. Lastly, I stepped up to using a magic eraser with the Sonax cleaner. I think it�s working but if I scrub enough to get most of the stain out the color starts to some with it?
Any clue what the stains are? I hope not blood but they�re super stubborn.
My guess would be lotion, body oils, or sunscreen.
I wouldn�t recommend a magic eraser as that�s similar to using 3000 grit sandpaper. Instead, find an All Purpose Cleaner (APC) and try it with a weak dilution. Maybe 10:1? If that doesn�t work, then progressively get more aggressive with the dilution. I use Meguiars APC myself.
You might also consider posting over at the AutoGeek forums. It�s full of pros who might be able to give you more insight.
Thanks to everyone for their posts on this topic. I have a 2002 with Sport seats in Black leather. How do I figure out what leather (ie: aniline vs. painted etc.) I have to ensure I make the best choice for repair.
Thanks,
Dave.
Go to Colourlock and other leather repair specialty websites for a quick primer on what finishes go with which marques and eras. Unless you have the �natural leather�, which is aniline dye, you have �painted�/standard dye leather. Many vendors have good products for our leather interior bits. Several excellent posts on RL.
Thanks,
I have researched and am likely going to go with Colourlock. However, they have kits for aniline and painted leather. My build list states: "AL - Sport Seats - Leather, Black". Can I assume this is NOT natural leather?
Dave
