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Although Porsche internally changes the headings for its models, all 911 models were and are currently sold as a "911".
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I saw the 911 vs Boxter thread and it reminded me of a question that keeps coming up.
No where on my 2003 Carrera does it say 911. If I google 911 the 996 shows up. Why did they drop the 911 emblems? Is it really a 911 or is that what the enthusiast decided to keep calling a 911.
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 40th Anniversary Model Review
The Porsche 911 is precision machinery. By any objective measure, it is truly
one of the world's finest sports cars. As they say, there is no substitute.
http://www.etusivu.info/Porsche-911-...nniversary.htm
I was glad when I found this, as it cleared up a small detail
Now I can refer to mine as either, preferring to call it a Carerra and aptly named
'highway star'
Im not a troll, I actually own a 996. I cant be the only guy who wonders why his P-car doesn' say 911. Why did Porsche drop the logo? where they planning to discontinue the 911 and start the 996 as something with a new name. I just think its odd if the 911 is the flagship car at the time 1997-1998 that they didn't put it on the new car.
I may have figured out the answer to my own question.
I'm 41 and remember growing up that all P-cars had names with numbers, 924, 944, 928, 911, 959 ... etc. Now no Porsche cars have numbers. Maybe the 996 was at start of this naming era.
Not the only one, but definitely one of those that hasn't bothered to research the history of Porsche and the 911 (hint: technically speaking there was only one 911, but everyone (including Porsche) continues to refer to all the subsequent iterations as 911 too).
Huh? 993 -> 996 -> 997 -> 991 -> ???
Although Porsche internally changes the headings for its models, all 911 models were and are currently sold as a "911". The headings below use Porsche's internal classifications:
Porsche 911 (1963–1989)
Porsche 930 a turbo version of the original 911 (1975-1989)
Porsche 964 (1989–1994)
Porsche 993 (1993–1998)
Porsche 996 (1998–2005) all-new body and water-cooled engines
Porsche 997 (2004–2012)
Porsche 991 (2011–Present)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911
The 996 was not the beginning of this "naming era."
Further: Carrera (Spanish for "race" and "career") is a brand of Porsche automobile. The name commemorates the company's success in the Carrera Panamericana race.
The following vehicles have been called Carrera:
Porsche 356
Porsche 904
Porsche 911
Porsche 911 (1963–1989)
Porsche 964 (1989–1993)
Porsche 993 (1993–1998)
Porsche 996 (1998–2004)
Porsche 997 (2004–2012)
Porsche 991 (2012–)
Porsche 924
Porsche Carrera GT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Carrera
Your car is a "2003 Porsche 911 Carrera" with an internal Porsche designation (version) 996. However, Porsche (with the exception of a brief experiment in Ephrata, PA with the help of an expatriate brit) didn't start plastering ALL of the badging on the 911 until the 991.
So why no 911 badge on the car ?
Guys I am not trying to stir trouble, I just think it's odd that we all call the car a 911 that doesn't say 911 on it. and wonder why Porsche took the badge off
Maybe after 40 years of gluing "911" to the back, they wanted to try something new.
More likely, the car is an icon - I imagine Porsche feels like the car is recognizable as a 911 with or without the numbers stuck to the back. With the exception of a lone "Is that a Ferrari" guy, who clearly was a douche, my completely debadged 996 is definitely recognized as a 911.
What's harder to explain: "Is that a 911 or a Carrera?"
I don't think you're stirring up muck, btw. Just having some fun here.
To answer one of your previous musings - Porsche is definitely not considering dropping the 911 moniker. The 911 is the flagship Porsche product, the one product they make that is quintessentially Porsche, the essence of the marque. No matter how many SUVs, sedans, or mid-engine cars Porsche cranks out, the 911 isn't going anywhere.
Ever since the internet, more and more if not most enthusiasts always goes by chassis code and this is what normally sticks in referencing cars of different periods. That's how you know you're somewhat of an enthusiast.
Same for every other car model, w202, b4, e38, etc...
Nothing new...
why did Porsche use an IMSB?
why did Porsche go water-cooled?
why is Porsche getting bigger/longer/wider/fatter?
why is there an AUTOMATIC Porsche?
why does Porsche recommend Mobil 1 as factory fill?
why did I not shut my pie hole and stay out of this thread? but then...I digress
We're (mostly) just having fun at your expense as this isn't a new question and the resulting threads can range from silly (what we have so far) to downright ugly (especially for the 996 which is the antichrist to the air cooled guys).
The formula is if the 911 being discussed is a newer model than yours, then it is by default not a real Porsche and just a sign that Porsche has sold out. From what I gather this started with the switch from the 356 to the 911 and it has continued since. God help the poor people that buy the next iteration with the turbo 4 motor. The 996 might not be the whipping boy any more
As I recall there were some variants of the 996 (or was it an option? dealer option?) that did have the deck lettering replaced with "911" and I'm pretty sure you could get door sills that said "911" too. We initially thought about getting hers de-badged, but I'm glad we didn't. My 958 on the other hand I'm glad I had de-badged as the conflicting fonts just annoy me.
From my research on the internet, which of course you know it is illegal to post anything on the internet that isn't true, a 911 is not a true 911 unless it has a badge on it that says so. Just like a Ford F-150 isn't really a true Ford F-150 unless it has a badge on it that says so. My 911 996 has a badge on the engine lid that says "Carrera" so crapola...another devaluation in perceived worth. I'm going to sue the Porsche dealer for misrepresentation!
First of all...give the noob a break. He seems like a fine young men with excellent taste in cars
For the record, my 997 came from the factory with this badge, so it is an "Official" 911.
5CHN3LL's comment about our favorite "Badger" is my vote for Post of the Month!
Mine was debadged at the factory, by fabled German craftsmen. Or craftswomen. Castrated from the outset, and lacking any identity.
I could care less what label is on the package. It goes like hell, make me grin wildly, and that's all that matters to me. It's pure enjoyment.
My '99 996 cabriolet's Certificate of Authenticity (COA), as published by PCNA, says "1999 911 Carrera Cabriolet".
We don't need no stinkin' stick-ons. Nuf said.
relinuca
Maybe Porsche should start adding the internal designation to the rear deck lid of their new cars.
Porsche 911 991 Carrera 4S
They're already throwing everything else back there, so why not?
