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My C4S had both window regulators replaced, the cooling fans replaced, the front differential was rebuilt, etc.

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Check into those dealers

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I will check into those dealers.

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Replace the front differential was rebuilt, etc

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My C4S had both window regulators replaced, the cooling fans replaced, the front differential was rebuilt, etc.

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Check into those dealers

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I will check into those dealers.

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The car needed new front strut mounts (and probably struts and shocks); tires; brakes (rotors, pads and flush and fill), it had a CF interior which certain pieces had spider cracks; paint was good, but not perfect and things like that.

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Repair costs are generally thought

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A turbo is a more complicated vehicle in many ways, and the repair costs are generally thought to be higher than normally aspirated cars.

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Check into those dealers

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I will check into those dealers.

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The car needed new front strut mounts (and probably struts and shocks); tires; brakes (rotors, pads and flush and fill), it had a CF interior which certain pieces had spider cracks; paint was good, but not perfect and things like that.

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A turbo is a more complicated vehicle in many ways, and the repair costs are generally thought to be higher than normally aspirated cars.

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Additionally, most of the repair issues that people have with the 996 apply to the turbo too.

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Replace fluids, get at least brake pads

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I generally budget $3k to $4k to replace all the fluids, get at least brake pads replaced, replace plugs and plug wires, belts.

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Replace plugs and plug wires, belts

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I generally budget $3k to $4k to replace all the fluids, get at least brake pads replaced, replace plugs and plug wires, belts.

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Replace the cooling fans

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My C4S had both window regulators replaced, the cooling fans replaced, the front differential was rebuilt, etc.

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My C4S had both window regulators replaced, the cooling fans replaced, the front differential was rebuilt, etc.

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Test drive

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Long story short, had a PPI done - about $10k of additional work was needed that I could not see in the pictures or maybe even noticed in the test drive.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey everyone. Well I still have not found a 996 that I have been ready to buy. The cars I was looking before did not turn out for a number of reason. Anyway the search goes on. I found this one today. It kinda local to me, and the price seems low for the KM's. Not sure I like the colour though. http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Porsche/9...O&orup=2_15_67 Also, my local Indy has a 996 with a blown motor that the owner wants to sell. Thoughts on going down that route? Buying a roller and dropping an engine like flat 6's or something. Although I don't think Flat 6 sells just the engines, I think they need yours to rebuild. I would like to get one soon because the season is driving $$$ down. Thanks again.

POST 2Original post

Love that color....the first car I looked at had that color....can't think of it off hand. I wouldn't buy a roller unless you are a real shade tree mechanic. Just buy one to drive.

POST 4Original post

Raby typically has a backlog, so you won't be driving it any time soon if you plan to pick it up and send it to Jake to get it running. MBMotorsports have palletized rebuilds ready to ship, but not having a core to trade will cost you $2K. If the goal is to have a great car to bang around in, buying one that runs seems to make the most sense.

POST 5Original post

That color is awesome and unique. It is Tiptronic as well.

POST 6Original post

I don't think the price is low at all. In fact, I think it's over priced. However, it looks to be in good condition, mileage is very low, and it comes with a warranty - all good points. In all likelihood it has the dual row IMSB, so no worries there. If you want a tiptronic, I don't see any reason not to bargain for it. I live close by and can have a look at it if you are seriously interested.

POST 7Original post

I don't know too much about pricing but being a Japanese import I would agree on the price being high. In Australia imported 996 cars are roughly 10k+ less than Aus delivered ones. Not sure what its like in the US.

POST 8Original post

ah - local guy. There are a few for sale right now. I've pm'd you - been bitten by the cayman bug, and might be willing to sell my cab.

POST 9Original post

I think there are better examples in Vancouver, however, may cost a bit more but come with a maintenance log at the very least.

POST 10Original post

Or how about this one.... http://www.waltersporsche.com/invent...aa29962s620793

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That $27,981 asking price now converts to about $43,000 in $CDN. Then there is 6% duty and 12% tax - makes a US purchase very expensive for us these days. Glad I did it several years ago.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey everyone thanks for the input. I did not notice it was a Tip. damn. I am looking for a coupe only, and non tip. Don't think I will go for a roller now that I have looked into it. I intend to keep the car for a long time if I get one. I have a Boxster S now , but I really want a 911. Buying from the states just wont work anymore. The exchange is awful plus tax to bring it here. Best case is I find something local.

POST 13Original post

Triple Black beat me to it. At first I saw the price, then realized it's from the US. After the conversion and all that jazz, Faceman742 is better off buying a 997 or pony up for a 996TT locally. There will be more out there - keep an eye out on Craigslist Vancouver. A few of the local used car dealers such as Company of Cars, Blitzkrieg Motorwerks, and Autoform often get good cars.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I should add that I AM VERY open to a turbo now. Just seems like such a ton of car for low $$. If a go the turbo route I don't need to worry about most of the issues from the m96 motor. Thanks for the info Dukes. I will check into those dealers.

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The turbo is not without its own issues. You may want to do a bit of research on that.

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+1 Turbos are great, but they do have the coolant line issue that can be expensive to fix. Additionally, most of the repair issues that people have with the 996 apply to the turbo too. My C4S had both window regulators replaced, the cooling fans replaced, the front differential was rebuilt, etc. Turbos can have all of those problems too. I'm not trying to discourage you from buying a turbo; just make sure you go into it with both eyes open.

POST 17 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I was under the impression that the turbo does not suffer from IMS fails, and all the issues that come with the m96 motor. I still have a lot to learn though

POST 18Original post

Since I just picked up a C4S after looking at the C4S, TT's and 997's here's what I found. All three models tend to be initially overpriced, especially at dealers, but you can negotiate. Look for service history, records and the like. Get a PPI since there can be less than obvious issues. Yes, TT's have the Mezger engines without the IMS problem but they are initially more costly to acquire and your maintenance costs are be higher. I was within a couple of days of going to Atlanta to pick up a 2004 TT Cab with X50 pkg. It was at a Porsche dealer there and they had a nice list of things they were going to fix/replace and preform the 90k major service before I got there. Long story short, had a PPI done - about $10k of additional work was needed that I could not see in the pictures or maybe even noticed in the test drive. The car needed new front strut mounts (and probably struts and shocks); tires; brakes (rotors, pads and flush and fill), it had a CF interior which certain pieces had spider cracks; paint was good, but not perfect and things like that. I got them down to $31k and offered to split the cost of what the PPI brought up. No go with that offer. The 997 is a nice ride, not quite the look of the 996C4S or TT, I was looking at a C4 cab because I like the wider hips. The early 997's used the M96 case and the early 997's (though mid-2006) also faced a possible IMSB replacement. So my advice is to think about the following: pay the money for an independent PPI; negotiate hard, be willing to travel or have the car shipped and lastly, be patient - do not fall in love with the first car that meets your checklist. I generally budget $3k to $4k to replace all the fluids, get at least brake pads replaced, replace plugs and plug wires, belts. etc. Plus once you get the car you will undoubtedly start down the slope of getting pieces-parts to make the car yours. I am doing that right now, LOL.

POST 19Original post

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You are correct - the IMSB isn't an issue with the 996 turbo. My point was that there are other things that break besides the dreaded IMSB. A turbo is a more complicated vehicle in many ways, and the repair costs are generally thought to be higher than normally aspirated cars. Your mileage may vary....

POST 20Original post

Turbos are a solid car, but it all depends on the car you buy. Look for limited amount of owners, unmolested, and little or no track use, and lower mileage. You can find a well sorted car in the low to mid 40's Had my turbo for a year and it's been a solid car. Spoiler hydraulics, throttle body, and ignition switch are the only issues I've had. All of which are fixable and not cost prohibitive. Paid 25$ for a new switch, $150 for tb, and pulled the fuse on spoiler until I figure what fix I will do. Stuff breaks and as the cars get up in age more stuff will. Have a little nest egg just in case, and become familiar with these cars before you jump in head first. I spent almost a year searching and my biggest advice is don't fall in love with any car until it's properly diagnosed and inspected.

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Well everyone thanks for all the info you have posted. I received some bad news this weekend. Needless to say the $$ saved up for a 996 must now be used for something else. I am really pissed right now, but at least I still have the Boxster to enjoy for a while longer. Sometimes it just feels like you can never catch a break

POST 22Original post

That's a bummer, but the Boxster is an awesome consolation prize.

POST 23Original post

Sorry to hear that. Enjoy your Boxster - it's an awesome car too!

POST 24Original post

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LOW, that car is waaaaaay Over Priced in my opinion 98' for 24k REALLY! GL & Enjoy the Boxter

POST 25Original post

Fiy the Canadian dollar is 70 cents us , so that car is 16500 usd$ I'd say it's priced fairly however you'd want an independent inspection , it would have had an inspection to get Canadian papers but you want a porsche specialist to look at it . Scan Automotive , Jakobs, Weisach Fiy that exchange rate has seen some local gt3s and turbos snatched up by Americans . I'm also seeing more Oregon and Washington plates up here for servicing .

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