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Replace 4 oxygen sensors

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I replaced all 4 oxygen sensors and then cleared the code again. This time my mileage was back to normal, like 25mpg highway and it lasted 180 miles before coming back.

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Replace cats and all 4 o2 sensors

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Replaced both cats and all 4 O2 sensors.

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Replace spark plugs

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Spark plugs were replaced at 120k miles.

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Use �cataclean�

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Although I haven�t tried it, others have successfully used �Cataclean� to help rejuvenate their catalytic converters.

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Replace catalytic converter

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You need to replace the catalytic converter for Bank 1.

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Replace 4 oxygen sensors

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I replaced all 4 oxygen sensors and then cleared the code again. This time my mileage was back to normal, like 25mpg highway and it lasted 180 miles before coming back.

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Replace catalytic converter

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You need to replace the catalytic converter for Bank 1.

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Replace cats

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Dang I also have the strong smell of gas at startup....how many miles did you have on the car when you had to replace the cats?

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Replace cats and all 4 o2 sensors

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Replaced both cats and all 4 O2 sensors.

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Replace spark plugs

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Spark plugs were replaced at 120k miles.

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Run 200 cell cats

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Pretty common occurance with running 200 cell cats.

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Run extensions

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I have been running extensions on the post-cat sensors for the last three years.

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Run oxy sensor extensions

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It may be be as simple as running oxy sensor extensions to solve the issue.

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Use �cataclean�

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Although I haven�t tried it, others have successfully used �Cataclean� to help rejuvenate their catalytic converters.

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Replace 4 oxygen sensors

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Reported fix · Original poster

I replaced all 4 oxygen sensors and then cleared the code again. This time my mileage was back to normal, like 25mpg highway and it lasted 180 miles before coming back.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi everyone, I have an 02 Targa with 123k miles on it. CEL came on at about 123200 miles, I cleared the code and it came back 40 miles later. My mileage was horrible, like 10-13mpg highway. I replaced all 4 oxygen sensors and then cleared the code again. This time my mileage was back to normal, like 25mpg highway and it lasted 180 miles before coming back. Spark plugs were replaced at 120k miles. I don't notice any major performance issues. Anybody know what the next troubleshooting step should be?

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You need to replace the catalytic converter for Bank 1.

POST 3Original post

I had intermittent 0420 and 0421 codes. Car had strong smell of gas at startup. Replaced both cats and all 4 O2 sensors. All is well now. Bank 1 cat had broken matrix inside.

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Quotes source post: 19687073

Because of the price of that component I want it to be a last resort option so I was hoping to do a bit more troubleshooting to be very sure.

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Quotes source post: 19687276

Dang I also have the strong smell of gas at startup....how many miles did you have on the car when you had to replace the cats?

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Quotes source post: 19687279

That�s understandable. Although I haven�t tried it, others have successfully used �Cataclean� to help rejuvenate their catalytic converters. I�m a bit wary of it, since the product must be poured into the gas tank - I�m unsure whether it�ll cause issues to your fuel injection & delivery system. I would personally give her the old Italian tune-up a couple of times and see if that improves things. You could try that in conjunction with Cataclean, if the instructions allow for it. Research the Cataclean first, and gauge your comfort level about using it.

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Tough to pinpoint the problem over the forum. It may be be as simple as running oxy sensor extensions to solve the issue. Pretty common occurance with running 200 cell cats. Below is an example from FVD. Plenty of other manufacturers as well. Good luck with solving the codes. https://www.fvd.net/us-en/shop?&term...nsor+extension

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Quotes source post: 19687295

I am right at 60K miles. I have been running extensions on the post-cat sensors for the last three years. It helps with CEL but not much else. As stated, one of my cats' matrices was broken into bits, so it was toast, and a cat cleaner would not help. If you are in an inspection state that follows California emission requirements, your choices for replacement are limited.

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