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That’s when I installed my rollbar and eliminated the back seat.

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Check fitment of a car seat

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I�d think most owners or dealers wouldn�t have an issue with you checking the fitment of a car seat but I�d try to find one that you might actually be interested in purchasing.

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Use everyday transportion like your suburban

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We had our Q7 we used for everyday transportion like your suburban.

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Check fitment of a car seat

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I�d think most owners or dealers wouldn�t have an issue with you checking the fitment of a car seat but I�d try to find one that you might actually be interested in purchasing.

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Be conscious of the fact that it could be more or less than 5k depending on what service and parts have been replaced prior to your ownership.

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Test drive one first

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Would like to rent or test drive one first.

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Check fitment of a car seat

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I�d think most owners or dealers wouldn�t have an issue with you checking the fitment of a car seat but I�d try to find one that you might actually be interested in purchasing.

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Install rollbar and eliminated the back seat

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That’s when I installed my rollbar and eliminated the back seat.

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Replace prior

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Be conscious of the fact that it could be more or less than 5k depending on what service and parts have been replaced prior to your ownership.

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Test drive one first

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Would like to rent or test drive one first.

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Use everyday transportion like your suburban

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We had our Q7 we used for everyday transportion like your suburban.

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Use wife's car since she only commutes

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For Costco or Large grocery store runs (1-2 twice a month), I would probably use my wife's car since she only commutes to her office downtown at most twice a week.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I�ve got the itch to make a 996 my daily driver. Would like to rent or test drive one first. Got two kids and want to make sure their Diono 3RTX fit in the back and that I like the car. Looking at mostly Carrera or maybe a Targa. Trying to keep it under 37k all in. I�m in Baltimore, MD. places like Theo and DriveShre don�t have any 996 generation.

POST 2Original post

Quotes source post: 17859361

I was in a similar boat a while back. I�d think most owners or dealers wouldn�t have an issue with you checking the fitment of a car seat but I�d try to find one that you might actually be interested in purchasing. if your car seat won�t fit, this will. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07X5K9YGY?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image Your budget sounds about right, just make sure you allocate $6k if it needs an IMS bearing, AOS, water pump, etc. It�s hard to find fully sorted cars these days. And do not forego an invasive PPI, including bore scoping. Good luck.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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thanks. I�m keeping an eye on BaT and Cars&Bids for something local. Also have alerts on AutoTempest. FIL (big into Porsche racing PCA events with his GT4) says I should get a newer car but those go into the high 40s and 50s to start. The plan is to sell the Accord for about 27k plus the proceeds from my classic Mini (15k) is 42k. Want to leave 5k after tags and tax for 1st year maintenance issues.

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 17861086

I echo elwood's thoughts. Be conscious of the fact that it could be more or less than 5k depending on what service and parts have been replaced prior to your ownership.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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yeah, low 30s would be the sweet spot. Or just chill in the Accord for another 1-2 years and spend 50k. But the worry is that in 2 years 50k still only gets me a 996.

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Only? Good thing you didn't post that on the "Prices keep drifting..." thread.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 17861816

forgive me. I�m new in these parts and do know know your ways and traditions.

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 17861086

I think your plan is solid. If you can find something with less than say 50-60k miles, the suspension should be good for a while longer leaving you with a decent budget if you need to do the IMS, AOS, clutch, and water pump. I bought mine with 74k miles so I factored in a suspension refresh as well. IMO, you�re not buying any more performance or reliability with a 997. It�s more cosmetics and a much nicer interior.

POST 9Original post

“ IMO, you’re not buying any more performance or reliability with a 997. It’s more cosmetics and a much nicer interior. ” Be sure to get a 996 with “full leather” interior and you won’t have to worry about ^^^ that😉

POST 10Original post

You will be fine if you buy right. In year one, don't worry about suspension, interior or exterior items. Just worry about service and parts to create dependability and durability with your engine. Plenty of time for the other things. If you do the right things to protect the engine, you will have a very dependable daily driver. re-read what Elwood said. Add to it that you want service records. And you will know exactly what has been serviced, replaced and when.

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My four year old loves riding in the back. He got car-sick the other day and put the fear of God in my eyes. I've never pulled over and evacuated him from the car so fast.... Fortunately we made it to a curb before his incident. But yeah... Beware.

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YMMV but my kids love riding in the cab. Getting a cab helped to see the wife on the idea. A coupe would likely be less novel though.

POST 14Original post

The 996 is a great daily driver. My son (17 at the time of purchase) never fit in the back seat. My daughter was 10 and she fit just fine. But my daughter outgrew my back seat when she was 13. She’s currently only 5’1” and light as a feather. So tall kids won’t be comfortable. That’s when I installed my rollbar and eliminated the back seat. The minivan or Mustang is for trips with more than 1 passenger.

POST 15Original post

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Even if you do feel this way, it�s in poor taste to say that in this forum amongst 996 enthusiasts.

POST 16Original post

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LOL any insinuation that the 996 is not the ULTIMATE 911 will not be tolerated�

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I don�t think this is accurate. I think that people coming in and saying things like �only a 996� is frowned upon. He�s not going to be ostracized.

POST 18Original post

It may make sense to stick with your Honda. Safer for kids. You may have unrealistic expectations across the board. If you are that concerned about costs, then you should wait.

POST 19Original post

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I think a Honda Accord is much more suited for a Dad with young kids. Can a 996 be used? Sure! Is a 4-door Honda Accord a better choice? Most likely, yes. My kids are older(15 & 22) and I have other options for transportation. I drove crappy boring cars(Toyota Corolla, Toyota Avalon, Ford Crown Victoria, P71) until my kids(and I) were older. Drive the Honda Accord, and save your money...the Porsche can always come later.

POST 20Original post

Yeah... I'm thrilled having my son in my 996, but it only works because I have a Suburban also.

POST 21Original post

Yeah, from the time my kids were out of the car seats, they sat in the back seat of my 996 until they got to be too big to fit. Agree with you. We had our Q7 we used for everyday transportion like your suburban.

POST 22Original post

Father of 3 year-old boy here. I echo the others. We go buy donuts in the 911 - we live in the Audi. I would get sick of daily parenting in the 996.

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POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey All, Thanks for the feedback. There is a dealer about 20 minutes north of me with a 996 Targa. Might take the kids and seats to see how it fits. I'll make sure to call ahead to let them know what I want to try. The car itself is well outside my price range (i think listed at $55k w/ 30k miles) It will probably be terrible for a daily routine, but I'll see how it fits. The Targa could make the rear storage area slightly more useful. Even if i do sell the Accord we will still have a 2017 Clubman that has plenty of room for kids and stuff, so that helps. All that being said, the plan will likely to sit in the Accord for another 12-36 months. Then both kids will be out of 5 point kid seats and just in booster seats. There is an E46 Touring on BaT that has a engine from a 330Zhp and 6 speed manual which could be a fun dad mobile for a few years, but in terms of utility is basically the same as the 2018 Accord.

POST 26Original post

My daughters squish into the back seats for ice cream trips to DQ etc. At this point as teens they�d like to drive the Porsche when they get licensed. I got them a civic because it�s safe and cheap to operate. Demands little. The mini van is the go to for family long distance outings.

POST 27Original post

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Targa would probably be most useful in your case, but that listed price for the one above is ridiculous IMO. Keep an eye on private sales (PCNA, CL, Renn, etc.) and you should be able to find something priced more reasonably. Dealerships are definitely putting high prices seeing if they can pull it off. Be patient, there are still deals to be had, just may need to expand search distance.

POST 28Original post

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Can�t beat the practicality of an E46 compared to a 911. I�ve had my 996 for 5 years, and the kids have no issues back there. My kids were 3 and 5 and now 8 and 10. But like others have said, we had a 2nd car, SUV, the family car. If you only have one car, I�d look for a BMW, or some other car with real seats in the back and a real trunk.

POST 29Original post

It's a Porsche forum. I would never talk "practical" to a new arrival that recently got bit with his first Porsche itch. Practical is likely where he is coming FROM. Why would I ever send him back there? Life is short. Cherished memories are often made from the CrAzY things we chose to do. Practical has little to offer in those regards. I hope the seats fit. And I hope the kiddos get to see dad from behind moving some stick around with his right hand and causing awesome sound from the back. They'll be talking about it when they have kids. Coolest dad ever!

POST 30 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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yup, we would still have a 2017 Clubman for 4 doors and small wagon storage.

POST 31 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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our kids have rarely been in an automatic car. Both the Accord and Clubman are 6 speed manuals, and the classic mini we just sold was also a 4 speed manual. :-)

POST 32 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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100% yes. We are not in a rush. Both our current cars are paid off and we are fine shopping for a reasonable 996 targa or even an early 997. there is a 2003 Targa near DC for $38k and had 80k miles. It hasn�t had the IMS yet.

POST 33Original post

Targa hatch might be more practical, but with roof open you loose an inch or two of headroom in back seats�.

POST 34 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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thanks for the input. It�s definitely a try before we buy.

POST 35Original post

I bought my 996 last April and it's my only car. My wife has the SUV/family car and I have 2 girls, 6 and 4. It's not ideal for family trips, but we make it work. I have 2 Mifold car seats since they are big enough for them and it makes a world of a difference. Note, not many car seats fit like they're supposed to in the backseat of a 996, but my girls love driving around in the race car. Also, I don't take them on the highway so it's all back/local roads... which I don't mind. Best of luck!

POST 36 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Thanks, I'm a stay at home dad, so the car would be the primary school drop/pickup vehicle. For Costco or Large grocery store runs (1-2 twice a month), I would probably use my wife's car since she only commutes to her office downtown at most twice a week. We had a "marital" discussion last night and she "suggests" waiting 12-18 months to see if the used car market cools off a bit and it would let us save some more cash and not be reliant so much on the Accord's value for the purchase. All reasonable, but what fun is that :-)

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