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Clean then up and applied some rust stop

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While he was replacing he noticed some corroded bows and cleaned then up and applied some rust stop before painting.

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Check individual switches)

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Piwis will also do calibration (and let you check the individual switches).

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Replace (about $1800-$2000 total)

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The labor costs on fixing any existing top (about $1000) can easily get close to the labor for a new top (about $800), so most people have the top replaced (about $1800-$2000 total).

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Replace fall of last year and imo it's worth it

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I had mine replaced fall of last year and IMO it's worth it.

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Replace on mine + the headliner

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2000 C4- I just had the top replaced on mine + the headliner.

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Replace plastic window some time ago and it looks great

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The prior owner of my '00 said he replaced the plastic window some time ago and it looks great.

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Check individual switches)

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Piwis will also do calibration (and let you check the individual switches).

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Clean then up and applied some rust stop

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While he was replacing he noticed some corroded bows and cleaned then up and applied some rust stop before painting.

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Replace (about $1800-$2000 total)

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The labor costs on fixing any existing top (about $1000) can easily get close to the labor for a new top (about $800), so most people have the top replaced (about $1800-$2000 total).

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Replace entire top

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Would particularly like to know if it's possible to replace the plastic window w/a glass one w/o replacing the entire top.

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Replace fall of last year and imo it's worth it

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I had mine replaced fall of last year and IMO it's worth it.

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Replace he noticed some corroded bows

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While he was replacing he noticed some corroded bows and cleaned then up and applied some rust stop before painting.

Opinions on a new top?

Replace on mine + the headliner

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2000 C4- I just had the top replaced on mine + the headliner.

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Replace plastic window some time ago and it looks great

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The prior owner of my '00 said he replaced the plastic window some time ago and it looks great.

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Replace plastic window w/a glass one w/o

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Would particularly like to know if it's possible to replace the plastic window w/a glass one w/o replacing the entire top.

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Replace top and get a glass window

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When this fails I’ll replace the top and get a glass window.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My 2001 C2's top may have seen it's better days. The fabric still looks good but the rear plastic window is marginal at best. I stopped by a local shop yesterday and was quoted $2,900 for a new top with a glass window or $2,400 for one with a plastic window. He advised me that the window itself could not be replaced. (true or not?) I'm trying to decide on which path to go with or just wait for a hardtop to appear and buy that. My car is blue so finding a color match is probably difficult but getting one painted is no big deal. Opinions on the price for a replacement, or now that the weather is breaking anyone round the mid-Atlantic states wanting to sell a hardtop with the older hardware? Thanks.

POST 2Original post

Don't need a top replacement yet for my 2000 C4 Cab but would like to know the answer to the questions posted by the OP too. Would particularly like to know if it's possible to replace the plastic window w/a glass one w/o replacing the entire top. Even my 2002 MR2 Spyder has a glass rear window. WTF? LOL!

POST 3Original post

I had mine replaced fall of last year and IMO it's worth it. I was on the fence thinking it won't make that much a difference but it definitely did, I opted for the glass window which shouldn't have the same delamination issues. The price seems good, I paid a little more here in the NE.

POST 4Original post

It is true that that the plastic window can't be replaced. I paid about $1800 all-in for a new top with German A5 canvas and a plastic window a few years ago. The new plastic windows are double-stitched and will not delaminate. The original windows were just glued in. I chose the plastic window because I felt that it more closely matched the lines of the coupe and gave a much larger view when backing up. Just a personal preference.

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The prior owner of my '00 said he replaced the plastic window some time ago and it looks great. I can't tell. I did watch a video (youtuber: BeatTheBush) about a DIY and it looks tedious, didn't come out perfect, but a lot less $$$ if you have the time. My solution for convertible top care - never put it up (well rarely anyway).

POST 6Original post

Most people here think that this is not a good DIY project. Pay the two dollars.

POST 7Original post

You bought a cabriolet. Don't cover it up with a hardtop as a solution.

POST 8Original post

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I went with a specialized convertible shop. They replaced it the entire thing and recalibrated my 996's top mechanism for about $2000.00. I personally wouldn't fool with it myself. The plastic window are the worst to oxidize. I think you may be able to retrofit a glass version the earlier cabriolets.

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This is something I didn't know when I was getting it was that the back window was smaller. The only complaint I have but that was me not paying close enough attention.

POST 10Original post

The smaller rear glass heated window does not bother me.

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The labor costs on fixing any existing top (about $1000) can easily get close to the labor for a new top (about $800), so most people have the top replaced (about $1800-$2000 total). Mine had failing cables, but the top fabric and window were fine. Some people tackle this themselves and save about $1k, but it takes the better part of a whole day and isn�t easy. I have stopped operating my top 5 times a day, and try to leave it up or down for longer periods of time to reduce wear and increase longevity. There are a lot of other things to break on cabs.

POST 12Original post

I caught my delamination early and was able to reseal the window with some wetsuit glue. It’s been about 5 months since I did it and it’s been rock solid through a lot of rain (car is my DD). I basically patched the first break and then used more glue to reinforce the remaining seal. It would be hard to glue a whole window in cosmetically it’s pretty good. You can’t tell unless you know where to look. There is a little extra glue in one corner as I laid it on too thick at the start. So far no issues with opening and closing but it’s just getting warm enough to star putting the top down I used some plexus to clear the plastic which helped a lot. When this fails I’ll replace the top and get a glass window. It’s worth it for the defogger. M

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Ancestor to 911 small window looks great on it also.

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It's difficult to tell from this photo, but my car is the same color. It looks very different in different lighting conditions.

POST 15Original post

2000 C4- I just had the top replaced on mine + the headliner. My plastic window had been restitched before and was again coming loose. Cost right at $3k. While he was replacing he noticed some corroded bows and cleaned then up and applied some rust stop before painting. Lubed everything within the top assembly also. Supplied me with photos of the replacement to boot. I stayed with the plastic window because of the size difference + I drive the car so seldom, rarely in bad weather and keep it inside, I think it'll last longer than my ownership. Came out perfect!

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I don't think my top guy knew how to recalibrate the top. Mine hasn't closed properly since he put on the new one. I wonder, does it take a special tool or just a series of inputs from the user?

POST 18Original post

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You need a durametric to calibrate the top. Piwis will also do calibration (and let you check the individual switches). You may or may not need to put it in a pre calibration state where you align the hook motor and put the clamshell motor at a particular resistance.

POST 19Original post

I also stayed plastic because the glass one was another $1,000, and it was heavier and smaller. I like to keep my 99 996 as stock as possible for the most part. By 2040, a stock 996 will be pretty awesome.

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