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better at opening the door especially
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Rather than have a traditional twist type of ***, I chose a lever-type which has proven to be better at opening the door especially with a handful of tools or materials.
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These days there is a parts-changer attitude and the skill to actually diagnose a problem is diminishing.
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A good technician WITH the ability to diagnose the actually issue is worth his weight in gold.
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The service writer was amazed when I told him I adjusted the valves myself and no, I don't need to pay you $115 to change an air and cabin filter (10 minute job for both filters).
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I bet that �tech� has a junk door in his tool box filled with spare parts😁
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The service writer was amazed when I told him I adjusted the valves myself and no, I don't need to pay you $115 to change an air and cabin filter (10 minute job for both filters).
Combined work: Replace back + Use qualifying oil once upon a time
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I send some of it in for a UOA once, and while it had no viscosity, the additive package was impressive. It may or may not have been used for a qualifying oil once upon a time for two laps around Talladega, but it didn't work as well as the peanut oil, so they swapped back.
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Today that wouldn't even work, because the jackasses would complain about the temperature of the ice cream, or say that their filling fell out of a tooth because of it.
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Rather than have a traditional twist type of ***, I chose a lever-type which has proven to be better at opening the door especially with a handful of tools or materials.
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Here's the damage Jake discovered...
It's at LN now and we hope to have it all built by the end of March. This thing is going to be a beast!
I can't wait to feel a properly balanced motor pushing 400HP out back! Stay tuned.
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The IMS drive chain tensioner failed.. That is what led to the tensioner paddle failure.
Also note there's no snap ring holding the IMS bearing into the shaft. Whomever did the replacement left the snap ring out of the equation.
Attention to detail is in short supply these days. Leaving off snap rings, dirty bores, not checking for foreign objects, reusing wear parts on expensive engine rebuilds is like a tire guy at the Porsche dealer forgetting to tighten your wheel lugs and turning your Pcar into a tripod entering a busy intersection. Costs of either happening are both too high.
It all stems from the way these technicians are paid.. It promotes negligence, and haphazard procedures. Couple that to most "technicians" today not having a natural mechanical aptitude, and you have a recipe for disaster.
One time, years ago someone had an LN classic single row bearing fail.. It was probably the very first issue the product ever had, circa 2008. The guy made a huge stink over it, sending videos and being threatening. I was asked to technically assist, to see what happened.
In one of the videos the guy sent I saw the retention snap ring in a tool box drawer.. I called him out, and he had no idea that he had left it out, leading to the issues.
As always, it is easier to be a victim, than a failure.
I used to work with a guy that always had leftover screws, nuts, washers etc. when he was done with a job (he was a maintenance/mechanical guy)... I�d always call him out on it if I was around (in a fun/joking/poking way - he wasn�t building engines thank god)... He�d always come back with �ahhhh you don�t need them anyway�...
I don't think I've ever worked on a car with a bottom panel (especially BMW, Porsche, Mercedes) that wasn't missing at least 1 screw or clip or push retainer.
I have a drawer full of brand new bottom screws and clips, and push retainers.
If I work on a car, it has all the screws or retainers underneath when it leaves.
I guess technicians are more focused on getting it out of their area so they can jump onto the job.
Jake is correct, flat rate(book time) makes the technician focus on speed, not attention to detail.
It's obvious his guys aren't speed focused.
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Jake is correct, flat rate(book time) makes the technician focus on speed, not attention to detail.
It's obvious his guys aren't speed-focused."
That is precisely correct in my view and my experiences just from dealers...... missing lug nuts, spark plugs not seated, driving exhaust manifold bolts into the water jacket, to fifteen ounces of weights distributed on a front-wheel to balance a front end shimmy and a dashboard that orchestrated over every pothole that shorted out the headlights due to missing fasteners. At times my only recourse was to send in my latest girlfriend who wore a skimpy top and tight jeans and would depart with a handful of extras and a fully repaired car whereas I would depart with a poorly sorted out car and a pound of abuse for pointing out their stupidity. All of which led me to become interested and develop an appreciation for all things mechanical and how they are serviced. Over the last few years, I have noticed that companies have focused more on the concept of components and replacing rather than repair and people with mechanical skillsets have been under financial deadlines and in some cases, those skillsets are no longer required.
My wife laughs at me (but secretly loves it) that I try to repair *everything* instead of replacing. The local Porsche dealership service writer told me that he had never seen anyone repair a transmitter key before (just needed a resistor to be re-soldered) after I brought one of the two non-functioning keys back to get a new part.
My biggest pet peeve is the inability to use an oscilloscope, and the lack of desire to learn how to use one.
These days there is a parts-changer attitude and the skill to actually diagnose a problem is diminishing.
A good technician WITH the ability to diagnose the actually issue is worth his weight in gold.
I can diagnose a lot of issues with my scope, but there are some awesome technicians with advanced diagnostic ability.
Every shop needs one...or hopefully more.
But unfortunately I believe a lot of shops these days have, and desire to have, none.
I do most repairs myself, but can't be bothered to change the oil in my DD (2014 TSX). The service writer was amazed when I told him I adjusted the valves myself and no, I don't need to pay you $115 to change an air and cabin filter (10 minute job for both filters). Last time in for an oil change the tech over filled the oil by at least a 1/2 quart in my estimation. I brought the car back and made them drain and refill the oil. The service writer stated matter-of-factly that the tech will loosen the drain plug just a little and pour off some oil. Yeah right I thought. 20 minutes later he sheepishly admitted they had to drain all of the oil and refill. And you think I'd trust them with adjusting the valves if they can't be bothered to check the oil after a change? Nope.
Another peeve of mine is when the tech takes air out of the tires to reset the cold air pressure. Hey numb_nuts, I just drove the car 30 miles to get here, of course the tire pressure will read higher. I bet that is the single reason we are stuck with TPMS now. All of these techs bleeding air out of tires to send hapless consumers on his/her way with under inflated tires.
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Interesting, curious how the chain tensioner can fail. Is there a spring in there that got fatigued over time? Or did the thing just snap for some reason?
That r40 is going to be fantastic! Keep us posted!
Couldn't you reuse your engine?
You would have to drop the engine right to replace them? And would you have to lock everything in place to make sure timing doesn't slip when you do it?
The flat six engines always throws me off, things are never where they are supposed to be!
u dont have to drop the motor, but it is easier to get to bank 2 by dropping. It is reccomended that u lock the cams.
they leak down, as they r hydraulic using engine oil
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Won't be long now.. I am prepping it to build now.. Balancing is done as of Friday.
I think I'll start assembly next Monday.
I think you'll want one of these after I add the "No Mobil 1" logo..
And every other component within the entire engine. You aren't buying R- Series parts at Pelican, or on Amazon. This isn't the engine for someone that wants those kinds of experiences.. Something like an FSI Stage I, or Stage II
That said, these coil packs are higher energy, made to overcome the cylinder pressures of the R- Series, with it's higher compression ratios, and better chamber filling. Stock ones will work- they just won't last long.
Well, I'm out... I buy **** from Amazon and Pelican and if I'm honest, I quite enjoy those experiences for the most part... Thats a nice oil cap though
We are doing the coolant, and fuel caps to match also. Tired of plastic crap.
Keeping a build simple, makes ownership of it simpler. The R- Series makes up about 5% of what we build, and that's IF *I* want to work harder than normal.. I build all these myself, there's no other option. That's why the R- Series are booked out through mid 2023.
Doing that one in billet is tougher due to the way it fastens.
I hate the plastic power steering reservoirs, I'd like to make the whole damn thing from billet, they are failing way too often.
Mr. Raby - I'm messing with you - the billet fluid caps aint for me, I replace the plastic ones at the beginning of the season, they're short money ya know.... Off to shop at Pelican, I heard they sell the M9X vids...
Jealousy is high!
I'd settle for a miniature rod and piston to put on my keychain... but then I'd have to buy a keychain as well. Oh, the costs of these things!.
Very cool.
Are you leaving this on the mainland or sending it to the islands?
With all due respect, will you be able to ring that thing out on an island? My naivety is showing. I�ve only been to Maui twice, before I could drive. once to the big island. I did drive around that one, sightseeing, in one long day.😎
congrats. It doesn�t get any better than this....yet.😀
I broke my finger last weekend working on my old Honda 250R ATC, so I am slowed down a little bit. I should have it completed a week from today, as long as nothing gets in my way.
I made changes to this one just because if this, the power band is more along the lines of what Bill can actually use, and this combo makes more torque gains than HP the way I have it set up. The power comes in earlier, and enhances drivability.
Mr Raby,
Very cool you tune the power band for customers use. When tuning power band, what�s the preferred tool in your box ? Camshaft, timing, runner length ?
Do you find the variocam useful as a tuning parameter ?
I always build engines to do certain things for certain buyers, and applications. Nothing here is "pre- built" or generic. You don't get the same thing everyone else does, and in lots of cases you end up with something that no one else has. This is the benefit of working with a program that has a backlog, and a ton of personal interaction from the people doing the design, application, and test work. (ask anyone who has been through my process about the constant interaction)
There's no single tool for this.. Everyone seems to think that building an engine a certain way means using a certain ingredient. That could not be further from a reality, in my direct experiences over the past 3 decades of my life.
The whole engine must work together like one well- oiled machine. The way I impress people isn't with some huge peak power number on a dyno plot. I make the engine gain everywhere, while losing NOTHING. Its easy to make big HP, if you don't mind losing the bottom end, id- range, and drivability at the same time. That is why "race engine builders" are the WORST when it comes to building street engines, and more so a dual purpose street and track engine. They do everything to make a big peak number, and they don't care what they lose while doing so.
To me, creating an engine combination is a challenge that equates to a soup recipe. You must have the balance of ingredients perfect, and couple that to the cooking time, and temperature to get it right. Engines are truly developed when the camshafts timing/ characteristics, compression ratio, cylinder head port profiles (velocity, and volume), as well as the intake/ exhaust are all working together with the bore and stroke to make the engine shine for a given APPLICATION and target desire of the end user. Ultimately, all of these things are then brought together with the tuning package, and if done right, mild engines can still use the stock ECU tune to maintain optimization. Don't forget about cylinder seal, and oil as being huge factors here, too. If the engine lacks cylinder seal, its going to do a whole lot of nothing, be impossible to tune, and be lazy no matter what. If I had to choose one particular essential when it comes to performance that you MUST get right, it would be cylinder seal. Without it, you have a boat anchor, and that's why I have spent 22 years constantly developing the essentials for cylinder seal with my engines.
At the end of the day, what single tool that it takes to do one thing well, relates on everything within the engine, and car to create. This is why each factor in the huge equation has to be considered, along with the operating environment.
Yes, no free lunch, understood. That is why I asked your preferred method and thought your input on camshaft and intake/plenum design, cam timing would be interesting. Port volume and velocity is a good one I did not think to include in my question.
Some lunches although less expensive - give you more value.
Anyways, thanks for responding.
....and swirl, and tumble, and.....
I've been posting this statement on forums since 1997, and it originated in 914 chat rooms, and newsgroups:
"Its all in the combo"
I’m gonna rent a Camaro next time I’m on Kauai. Stage up on Bill at a red and see if he bites, what with his R40 and all. What he won’t know is I notified the po po that the dang Porsche nut is out dragging on 50 (or 56) again. Then offer to drive his car home when he ‘wins’. Then I can experience the sublime torque curve on the cheap.
We're over there once a year (except this last year). We got married there 30 years ago.
How many 911's are on the Island for rent? We could all go for a drive and try to keep up...
She�s pretty much just helping me keep my personal customers up to date. She takes photos, sorts them, puts them in Dropbox and sends the customer their updates.
It took her a few months to get her first 914 engine completed. We are installing it into my Wife�s beetle after we finish Bill�s engine. The 914 based, roller cammed Nickies engine I did for it in 2008 is tired.
She built a 9,000 RPM two- stroke Honda FL-350 engine for her Odyssey.. 14:1 CR, Nikisil bore, with all the tricks. She is a maniac behind the wheel.. It hasn�t blown up yet, but we have a spare engine that she�s already built, because I know it�s coming.
Ava has her own engine program, training other kids about engines.
This made me laugh out loud. But I am bored at work so I was curious. Only a 6 hour flight to Phoenix which has one close to the airport, then its only a 7+ hour trip back with a connect flight. Seems doable.
Seems like a valid enough reason to take a little trip to the 50th state. Last one to Barking Sands buys...start at Princeville...if someone takes one (ticket) for the team, drink free...would be a pretty fun cars n coffee
Making progress.. Bearing clearances double checked, coatings applied and the crankshaft is torqued up in the carrier, end thrust set.
That's enough for one day. Maybe the short block will be assembled tomorrow, but I have a lot more work to do first. Ring gaps, light checking rings, final surface finish testing on the bores, and ring tension recordings. This is the time where I build the R- Series engine blueprint, and have to log all the final data for the engine build record.
The ******* himself, doing a little precision measurement...
A big question mark on the secret clearance!
Where some of the magic happens..
Some contrasting components..
Laid out for the party..
Flattening the sealing surfaces using several different whetstones, and lightweight oil
All i have to say is man u really need to clean that window
. J/k keep posting up the cool pics, nothing better then highly machined parts. Its how "art work" should be.
I think bill is gonna have his own vrbo wait list.
Bill, how do you sleep at night?
If I were you, I’d be laying in bed thinking about all the fun you’re going to be having soon.
It’s like Christmas is just around the corner!!
Jake, and Ava are like Santa sending pictures to you telling you what you’re getting as your toys are being built.
Exciting and cruel at the same time!
Sleep well my friend, for soon you’ll only want to drive.
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Bill, have you considered replacing your decklid with a custom plexiglass decklid?
It's going to be a shame to cover that piece of art up with a decklid!
Too bad I don't want to build any more (R- Series) than what I've already got on the books. SUMEBore development is just about to consume my entire existence, as I have to build and test 4 more engines.
I'd never have my employees build an engine that takes this level of detail, they'd become suicidal if they spent 4 weeks assembling one single engine.
All in a week's work... The heads just came back from thermal dispersant coating, so I'll get them back together at the beginning of the week, and probably have a long block finished by the end of the day next Friday...
My trick sealant will have to cure a little more, so I can peel int off first.. :-)
I build engines for The REVs Institute, so quite a few end up in a museum.
They look a lot different, though..
Never fear... I'm making a run of 3, R- Series coffee tables now. R40, R43 and R44. Red, Black, and silver..
The blocks are out for powder coat now, and they'll have a super nice tempered glass top, with unique etching.
That's pretty cool, I have a block and heads set aside for a "man cave coffee table" too Had the plans for years just haven't got around to it.
I did half of my "man cave end tables" yesterday ,holds a 997 Turbo Wheel "under glass"
What a great idea! I am in the process of turning a connecting rod into a door handle for the outside door of my garage. Rather than have a traditional twist type of ***, I chose a lever-type which has proven to be better at opening the door especially with a handful of tools or materials.
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So the R40 is the 996.2 base (3.6l) pushed to 4.0l, correct? I wasn�t looking at these engines for my car, except I�m now drooling at what�s out there:
https://flat6innovations.com/service...s-f6i-engines/
Correct. The R- Series engines follow a completely different protocol here. My personal purchasers only deal with me directly.
@808Bill
knows the benefits of that :-)
My team manages the regular schedule, and builds exceptionally well, but the R- Series isn't even created on the same property as the normal FSI engines.
The R40 @4.0 is also a completely different engine combination than the Stage II @4.0 that it was derived from.
I've been hearing that a lot lately.. Too bad I'd rather build Aircooled engines myself these days.
Sold two more last week, both were R43s, though.. That'll keep me happy for a while, I think that puts 8 more on my plate.
It's a beautiful thing. Every picture I see makes me look for a roller even more! I expect the waiting list for these is out 2-3 years. So maybe not a roller, to start wtih...
When does it go back in? I'll be there on the 26th for 2 weeks. Just bought the plane tickets and made Covid test reservations. I'm happy to help hook it up!
Heck with the beach.
It's not THAT far out for an FSI build, unless things have changed a bunch in the last 2 months.
I asked for the last spot in 2022(budget reasons) so my wait for a Track Performer II is a bit longer than most.
You might have to wait over 1 year for an FSI build, but not 3...unless you want an R series.
Yep, a lot has changed in 2 months. Hell, a lot has changed in 2 weeks, and we've sold two more engines just today, with proposals executed.
I am now two builds from tagging the line, and shutting down sales for a few months (again) as it'll be too far out for us to maintain with communication, and our protocols. We are now 16 months out on the normal FSI schedule after the latest boom, which always happens in spring. We have been 1+ year for completions for over 5 years now, and at least 9+ months since 2009.
My personal schedule with the R- Series is already closed, as I secured builds into 2023, and that's as far as I want to go, as I mesh these builds with my aircooled engines, and my SUMEBore development. I have to change up what I do constantly, so I don't feel like I am working. That's how I can put 150 hours into an engine like Bills, and not give a damn about the profit that comes from it. I don't really make anything off them, unless I value my time at a labor rate that's less than I could make cutting grass for a living.
Sorry to not be clear. My estimated time was for an R series. Maybe it's a bit long based on Jake's comment above. If I were to buy a roller, it would be to build a car I could take to the track. And I would like an R series in that car.
Then you have to add another year after completion before you're allowed to track it, so maybe first track session of 2025. Still worth the wait for a forever car!
Either Track Performer II or R-Series would be track worthy.
Of course that's all subject to change by FSI for 2023+.
They may change things up and offer completely different options for 2023+, you never know.
In my opinion, nothing beats an R-Series build.
The Track Performer II was a better option for me than selling my 996.2 C2 and buying a GT3.
I considered the selling option, and decided the Track Performer II would fit what I wanted MUCH better than a 996.2 or 997.1 GT3.
I daily drive my 996, but wanted it to be fully track capable.
I'm too attached to my 996 to sell it and get something else anyways.
Part of me wishes I went with an R-Series, especially after seeing the beautiful pictures, but I'm just happy I finally pulled the trigger and got in line.
When the rear deck is closed and I'm driving my track performer II on a back road, I'm sure I'll be happy with my decision.
Go ahead and get in line now...it's not getting any shorter!
Nah, the Stage II and R- Series warranty period is 90 days, so once the service milestones are accomplished and I release the project, you can do whatever you want.
^^^^^ This is the problem. The pictures are the problem. Seeing the pictures, you can imagine how different the R would be. Maybe it's worse for me right now because I don't have a car to drive! My wife's GTI is fun to drive but it's not even close to a replacement So all I can do is imagine...
Yeah, but the R Series is double the cost of a typical Stage II build. That does a good job of making the decision for folks about which way they should go.
Lots of people who go through our process say the same thing. You got lucky, since you got the sweet spot where Covid created about a 3 week lull in sales, before it made everything explode. If you would have started the process even a month later, it would have cost you 6 months longer wait for a Stage II, and an extra year for an R- Series.
I kept thinking that the explosion was artificial, but we had 4 more new people execute their proposals yesterday. I remain blown away. We�ll enjoy it while we can.
I think part of it is that the cost to acquire a 996 is relatively low, and it�s a great candidate for an �outlaw� 911. Since most people can�t afford a Singer, a 996 with an FSI engine and some tasteful interior/exterior mods gets you a really nice driver at a lower/comparable cost to the next cheapest 911 in good/stock condition that you can buy. Even with a stock M96 engine that might blow up on me any day, I still don�t miss my 997.2. These car has seriously grown on me. I don�t like the 996.1 headlights... I love them.
Yeah.. I haven�t had less than a 8 month backlog since 1998. For over a decade it�s been 12+ months from order to completion.
I forgot what it was like to not be busy.
I have to admit, life was easier when I wasn�t busy. It was better in a lot of ways, too.. But people were also a lot different and easier to please/ less entitled/ more respectful back then, too. Today I spent 1/2 of my effort making sure we don�t end up dealing with jerks.
"outlaw" 996's are cool too, but they need to remain true to the spirit, ie Zomb..no morphodites allowed (Ls3 ect are cool "cars" but they lose the "spirit".)
You could write a book " How to de-jerk your business " it would be an NYT Best Seller for sure..
My oldest sister was a carrier Journalist and her husband was a 25 year NYT Editor, but still none of her stuff got to NYT Best Seller List.
I could write books about a lot of things. The issue is today's modern human would have "PTSD" after finishing the first book. I'd be called every name in the book, just for saying things the way they are.
It was starting to get bad enough in my classes that I was having to watch what I said- so I stopped doing classes. I will not be restrained!
As Steve Jobs said "If you want to be in a business where you please everyone- sell ice cream". Today that wouldn't even work, because the jackasses would complain about the temperature of the ice cream, or say that their filling fell out of a tooth because of it.
I'm limiting my personal schedule to fewer Porsche engines, and more vintage VW engines. I find that going back to my roots is very rewarding, and the purchasers are completely different to deal with. Now that I've finished Bill's R40 I am onto revitalizing something that's 50 years old, and quadrupling it's original output. I probably won't build another M9X personally for the rest of the year.
And that would be a shame. I can't afford an R40 but I have watched the video and hope to build my own engine before I am to old to enjoy it. I have enjoyed reading of your accomplishments. Thank you for what you have done to improve these engines.
I keep things changed up.. I build a few M9Xs, then do a few Aircooled's, then take a break, then do some R&D work, then go back to some M9Xs again. The schedule is built 2 years in advance, and I tend to stack things up in succession, before changing it up.
If I don't do this, R&D suffers, and I get bored, too.
I have a ton of workload to continue SUMEBore cylinder development.
I need variety in what I do for work. I get bored easily. I suspect taking a break for awhile from those, keeps the quality at the level you expect when you do return to working on them.
Yes, and in the meantime my other 3 engine builders (the newest has been here 15 years) knock out the regularly scheduled builds.
i also change things up for them a bit, and every few months I�ll give them an aircooled engine, or a turbo or other flavor of Mezger to keep them sharp.
I get the feeling that folks are disappointed that obtaining an R engine is beyond their grasp due to the cost and time constrains. Fact is, a stage II for any model car is sufficient for even the most demanding driver. I absolutely love my Porsche and want to (and have) add the highest quality components available. Yes, an R engine would be the pinnacle but, even for me, spending double and waiting that extremely prolonged amount of time is beyond what I'm willing to do. Besides, an engine cover would hide its aesthetics in my case.
It wouldn�t be special if everyone could have one.
I came up with the R- Series so I could have some personal fun with builds again, and offer something that was above everything else.
Thats all.. I never did it to add to the bottom line of my company, as it wasn�t about money at all. It still isn�t. It keeps me involved and it keeps me challenged with exceptional detail.
Money or time haven�t been a challenge with sales of these. Right now I could have a backlog of these R- Series engines through 2023 if I would accept them. I won�t, because it adds work keeping that many more people updated.
The next 4 of these R- Series engines I have to build are R43 and R44, but I am working on a SUMEbore R46 @4.6L for 2023. The test engine for that one is ready to go together now. If this works out it�ll be time for a 5.0 and the X- Series will be born.
Yeah, a Stage II is anything that anyone would ever want.. The others are just cool stuff that we do because we can, and no one else will.
Back to something 5 decades old for me this week. I love it, and live it!
How truly sad that our society, in general, has institutionalized a form of alienation from reality while at the same time rushing to adopt cultural insanity. Unfortunately, it has become quite fashionable in today�s society to be so preposterously arrogant by people who have no talent or ability to do the kind of work that is done at Flat 6.
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I get the feeling that folks are disappointed that obtaining an R engine is beyond their grasp due to the cost and time constraints. Fact is, a stage II for any model car is sufficient for even the most demanding driver. I absolutely love my Porsche and want to (and have) add the highest quality components available. Yes, an R engine would be the pinnacle but, even for me, spending double and waiting that extremely prolonged amount of time is beyond what I'm willing to do. Besides, an engine cover would hide its aesthetics in my case.
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Look, I would love to have an R40, regardless, but perhaps I would be better served to have a well-mannered machine with a little more fart and torque of a stage 1 motor that has been blessed with proper refinements that meet and exceed my appetite for a great driving experience without all of those associated problems. The fact is, at least we have choices......
clairy
A couple dozen R- Series engines exist, most of those are R43 @.4.3L rather than the R40.
Exactly. To me the Stage I is probably the best overall engine I have from a cost Vs output/ gain perspective. You can keep 100% of the stock ancillaries, and still gain 40HP (+/-) over stock with the least amount of money spent. The Stage I doesn't;t need any upgrades, and works better without them.
And, on that note... For those that are interested, we have teamed up with TeeSpring to bring you Flat 6 Innovations R-series/Rennvision apparel and other Flat 6 merchandise. All of the proceeds made from the sales will go to support the Rennvision channel on YouTube. Thank you for your support and patronage of Rennvision and The Knowledge Gruppe.
Here is the link to our TeeSpring store:
https://teespring.com/stores/rennvision
That brings up a good point..
Someone asked me last week about an R- Series for a 9A1 engine. I have no plans to offer something cool like this for the 9A1 engines. I personally hate building them, and have no desire to do something like this with them. We build up to 4.2L engines for the 9A1 cars, but something like an R- Series isn't in the cards for those engines. My 4.2 "Cayman X" engine was born in February 2010, ahead of everything, and everybody else, and though we build an increasing number of 9A1 engines, we keep them simple, and proven.
If you are coming to Kauai, bring a case of DT40, we've got an R40 to feed!
We are here on Kauai for our anniversary. Before we came I asked Bill if he needed anything. DT40 was the request. Apparently it's about $200 to ship a case of oil over here. So I brought over all the DT40 I could find in a day.(10qts) United wrapped it up in a nice bag. I got a tiny arm workout carrying it around to the rental car. Had a really nice lunch and chat with Bill. I missed the timing to help put the R40 in, but that's OK. I'll be back next year with another case to feed the monster!
Bill�s stocking up.
2 oil changes per year for the life of the engine = LOTS of DT40.
That means Bill needs lots of visits from Rennlisters.
Hey Bill, how does this sound?
1 case of DT40 mean Bill let�s you take a peek under the rear decklid at a Genuine R40.
2 cases means Bill will start it up and take it for a long drive.
3 cases means Bill will take you with him.
Everyone is wrong. You'll never figure it out, and I'll never divulge the secret sauce!
This is for the first 100 miles only, after that we go to an intermediate oil for 1K miles, then the first service fill.
Well, I would guess that it could be either a multi-grade mineral oil, Aeroshell 100 or being old as dirt, I used to hear a lot of old-timers that worked on DC 10, 3, and other piston engines claim to have used Marvel Mystery Oil. They were the ones who suggested turning over the car or truck engine a few times to lube it up before allowing it to fire up
Tabasco sauce...it heats up the cylinders before even turning it over. Ha!
If Engine=ICE and Motor=electrical, why do I enjoy watching
Motor
sports so much?
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Looks like Bill got smart and let it fill up. My customers get pounded here with guys sending them PMs trying to get information. One just brought this up to me yesterday, since we just finished his engine.
If you want info don't bother members, sign up for our monthly Webinar, which is 3.5 hours of the most insane detail you'll ever be exposed to when it comes to how we have built this program, what it costs, how long it takes, and how good it is.
Trust me, if people weren't pleased, they'd be so damn vocal that you wouldn't have to ask them "how their experience was".
Now, I have once upon a time used Panama Jack, and Hawaiian Tropic in an engine used for an engine blow contest at a beach themed car show. The engine ran 5 minutes floating the valves at over 8,000 RPM before it failed. It only failed because the camshaft snapped in half, which was due to it being a 40 year old part. Inside the engine everything looked beautiful, and upon teardown it all smelled like the beach.. Nothing was scorched.
I send some of it in for a UOA once, and while it had no viscosity, the additive package was impressive. It may or may not have been used for a qualifying oil once upon a time for two laps around Talladega, but it didn't work as well as the peanut oil, so they swapped back.
There's no link. Submit a ticket at
www.flat6innovations.com
to start the process. These are only for potential buyers of engines, so I pre- qualify attendees. This isn't a free technical webinar, this is a sales webinar, but no one will try to "sell" you anything. I did this so I don't have to spend 30 hours a month on the phone with each person, with everyone always wanting the same information. This format uncovers it all, with no BS.
OK, I was just curious. You said if folks want info to sign up - that would be me. At least I thought that’s what you said.
I am not in the market for a motor right now so I guess I am not invited ?
Awesome.
Just wait till you are, then sign up. The content is updated every month, and what you see today will change in just one month. Thats why its important to insure when you are within 18 months of needing the engine, since that's how long the queue is from start to finish. Inquiring early often leads to misinformation, and confusion later, when everything changes.
Some things we host are general info for everyone, this is not one of those- it is only for people that have the safety off, and their finger on the trigger needing the last information before taking the shot.
I have a silly question - I'm not in the market now, but I might be in a few years (especially if I do pick up another 996). My question is - do you think you'll still be doing this in 5-10 years? I know it's hard to predict the future, but I also don't know how old you are/when you want to retire, etc.
Sorry if it's a silly question.
-Matt
My company is heavily invested in these engines, and the industry needs the company. No matter where I go, or what I do- the company will go on. My employees have all been here for years, with my newest engine builder having been here for 15 years. The program is very efficient, and everything is done with checks, and balances. Over the years my team has been coached to play this game my way, and the result has led to a team that performs as well with me, as it does without me. I work for weeks at a time at my R&D facility, then show up to do vehicle inspections and double check QC work. I find that things work better without me there everyday, especially wince my people have tasks assigned a whole year ahead of time, and they know who's engine that'll be building 18 months from today.
I have been on my own program, building R- Series M9X and Aircooled engines for 3 years now, as well as doing R&D like the SUMEBore development. Jud, and my team handle the day to day operations from the main location, while I work in my own world some 2 hours away, at Skunkwerks. I have set everything up to work better without me, than it does with me, and my people are all like gold when it comes to dedication, responsibility, and initiative.
Anyone who starts a project with me will end up with me, that's for sure. Every commitment that I have made will be fulfilled, even if I get hit by a bus.
I too worried that Jake might decide to close up business and I'd miss out.
I decided I was 80% sure I wanted my engine rebuild performed by FSI in 2022.
I attended the webinar, had all of my questions answered before I could ask them.
By the way, FSI would continue even without Jake.
He has hired the right people to make certain of this.
If someone impresses Jake enough with their attention to detail in their work, they're certainly good enough for me!
After the webinar I was 95% sure I wanted to pull the trigger.
I took the weekend to discuss it with my wife and to decide if I was ready to pull the trigger or not.
My wife just said, "I don't care, do what you want to do."
I came up with a couple of more less significant questions, but since Jake had said, "now is the time for questions" I went ahead and asked them.
Jake doesn't want you having
ANY
questions after you've pulled the trigger, he wants them asked beforehand.
After another day or two of sleepless nights thinking about how awesome a FSI Track Performer engine would be, I pulled the trigger.
One additional expense I hadn't expected, and Jake should really warn people about, is my wife decided to redecorate the house.
Every time she shows me something new she reminds me I'm getting a new engine. Ha!
I'm 110% OK with that!
Yep, usually guys get a deal on an engine negotiated with a new kitchen for the wife.. Happens all the time. Or sometimes she gets a new car, or a bigger diamond.
Yep,
@TexSquirrel
summed it up well.. Too many times business owners create a business that revolves around them, and when they are gone, then it collapses, or it sucks the life out of them.
I was that way till 2011 when my daughter was born. I was anticipating issues with her birth, even though every test said she was fine. I had every single thing set up for every employee for the next 6 weeks. She was born with a form of spinabifida and required surgery on day #2.... I was out with her for weeks, and other than the random email I answered from the side of the NICU crib there were no issues. At that time I created a plan that would omit me from everything around here as a sole responsibility. It took until 2014 to get it all in place, but today the whole place runs like a Swiss watch. I build what I want to build, and do what I want to do. I always have time for developments, and spending time with my daughter who is 9, and has no residual issues from her birth defect. Seeing a miracle should change your life. It certainly changed mine.
[QUOTE=Flat6 Innovations;17440213]Looks like Bill got smart and let it fill up. My customers get pounded here with guys sending them PMs trying to get information. One just brought this up to me yesterday, since we just finished his engine.
If you want info don't bother members, sign up for our monthly Webinar, which is 3.5 hours of the most insane detail you'll ever be exposed to when it comes to how we have built this program, what it costs, how long it takes, and how good it is.
Trust me, if people weren't pleased, they'd be so damn vocal that you wouldn't have to ask them "how their experience was".
Mr. Raby,
Respectfully, I wasn’t trying to get info on what you are building for him. I was trying to continue a conversation with him that didn’t have anything to do with your build, failing to have his Cel phone number, I thought a post in this thread was the best way forward. I have actually reached out to you directly in the past, you were kind enough to give me a detailed response, I wouldn’t hesitate to reach out to you directly again.
Hey gang, I'm back. Motor landed yesterday and will be picking it up in the morning.
Didn't realize my pm box was full and my membership expired, so I'll get that all cleaned up in the next day or two.
Jake and his team have been top notch and I highly recommend you work with them over anyone else!
Thanks Jake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jake, glad to hear that your daughter is doing well. I'm in the biopharmaceutical and gene therapy world; my job can be super stressful but I get gratification knowing that I'm indirectly helping thousands of kids and people that I'll never meet. Every now and then I do get meet someone who has used or is using medicines or vaccines that I've been involved in. Its quite humbling...
Sorry gang, this is busy season for me and my plan is for a November install. The heat and humidity in the summer is no fun when I'm working outdoors. lol. If my car wasn't running I sure would have done it by now.
Here's a thought you could ship it to me. I would install in my car and make sure it gets exercised daily. Then when the snow falls I'll take it out and send it back...I promise...
Whadda think?
It took me two years to complete my rebuild project so 🤙. and looking forward to the first drive report. Just FYI it's not Coronavirus it's you dragging your feet that is delaying my 2020 Kauai trip.
I'll book my tickets when I see your lift.
Bill keeps an R40 on hand�just in case he needs it.
I understand waiting until it�s cooler.
If I didn�t have AC in the garage, I wouldn�t do any work on my car.
Tuesday I had to replace fuel injectors in my wife�s Honda Odyssey and had to work outdoors in the sun.
That was brutal in triple digit weather.
No more working outdoors unless it�s an emergency until it gets cooler!
Read entire thread. On the edge of my seat!
Cant wait for an update. Cant wait to borescope my motor and read Cam Deviation. Might be inquiring about a webinar with Jake soon 🥳
Well Bill, seen u around the board lately and i wondering why we dont have pics if the motor stuffed into your car yet. If u need help im only a 6 or so hr plane ride away..... send me a ticket
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Im going to start shaming u weekly.
Well Bill, seen u around the board lately and i wondering why we dont have pics if the motor stuffed into your car yet. If u need help im only a 6 or so hr plane ride away..... send me a ticket
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Im going to start shaming u weekly.
@Justin, sorry I missed you, I always look forward to visitors from the forum.
Oh ****, I'm already ashamed...
The problem is, my car is not broken and I drive it everyday to work.
I had to move my daughter back and she's using my truck for her means of transportation.
Also, I just lost two employees and that means more work for me until I find replacements.
I'm sure I can come up with a few more excuses...lol!
The biggest one really is acces to the lift I have lined up. The guys business has exploded and he's got 4 lifts in use full time now.
Soooooooo many excuses.
Ill do it on the floor with some 6x6s and 2 floor jacks. It will be a 2 day job and u will be back driving it to work by monday. Just dont tell my wife....im gonna swear its a 5 day job
So it seems like you have the engine just sitting there in the corner somewhere. All lonely. If you need someone to get that engine broken in their car so when you're ready the engine is ready to go full gas.... I can be that guy
Put it on BaT😎
imagine the comments you�d get�
from 3/98: I �probably� getting a R40 Raby next week, unless (inset excuse) and I�ll just get drunk and go supersonic with my new Cayenne GTS etc, etc�.
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