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My 996 had almost 100k on it when I sold it, it's the highest mileage 996 that I've owned and probably the best driving of the bunch.
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Enjoy your new (to you) car - don't waste time worrying about repair bills but keep her well looked after and she will give you so much pleasure to drive, to own, to look at, to talk with strangers at the kerbside, to photograph, to take the queue of neighbours young lads out for a ride.
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Enjoy your new (to you) car - don't waste time worrying about repair bills but keep her well looked after and she will give you so much pleasure to drive, to own, to look at, to talk with strangers at the kerbside, to photograph, to take the queue of neighbours young lads out for a ride.
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I have 110k on the clock on my 996 and my only complaint is that it uses a lot of oil.
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I just walked away from a long-distance deal on a 911. The price was great, but there were a few too many red flags for my liking, so after a questionable PPI, I bailed.
I did find another car locally, though. It's a 2003 C4S that's in good (not excellent) cosmetic shape, has a TON of options and a fresh IMS.
...and 102k miles on the clock.
I know, I know. At least fifty of you cats are thinking, "Great, another dude looking for everyone else to make a 911 buying decision for him!"
I have a 2003 Land Rover Discovery with 101k miles and do all the maintenance myself. I take that thing on road trips a few times a year and have pretty much no problems with it. It's just not "used up" yet and I don't mind the mileage.
My question is if a C4S with high mileage and a pretty decent maintenance history is "used up" and getting ready to really tank in value or not. We're looking at around $23k for this thing. It'll be a weekly-to-daily driver. Do they start blowing smoke and pissing on the garage floor at some point?
If the PPI's good, would you go for it?
Price seems really good for a C4S with that amount of miles. If its taken care of (internally) you should be ok and not take much (if any) of a depreciation hit. These are great cars, I've heard/seen some pretty high mileage ones, well over 101k.
My personal thought it, if cosmetically it isn't good, mechanically it probably isn't either, but that is just me judging books based on the cover.
Yep I would go for it. If you had asked me the same question before I got my (first) 996 two years ago I would have said no. But I have become convinced that miles are not the enemy on these cars. And if it includes all you say it does I'd probably try to push the price down a hair more and then go for it anyway if I liked everything about it.
He's asking a little more. I'm shooting for $23k. I'd give the interior a 9 and the paint and wheels an 8, cosmetically. Some rock chips and curb rash are about the extent of it.
Miles are getting up there, say you put on 30k in 4 or 5 years , a 996 with 130k on it is going to be harder to sell,
Remember every moving part and non moving part has 100k on it, all parts have a life span and are not cheap to replace .
Personally I'd get a 50k car
If you're used to taking care of a '03 Land Rover, the 996 should be a breeze.
That price range is on the bottom of the scale for c4s model so you should be good. Personally whenever there is a fresh IXX or fresh oil change is what concerns me as debris in the oil might not show up until after some mileage has been put on it.
Whats stopping you from looking at something with 50000 miles on it? Maybe an older 996. I think that would be the wiser choice for you. Just my opinion.
This. Sincerely the previous owner of a Disco 1.
Seriously, miles are just about irrelevant on these cars. Condition and maintenance is everything. I recently sold a 1997 Boxster with 137k that ran and drove great, no major engine work and the original IMS. My 996 had almost 100k on it when I sold it, it's the highest mileage 996 that I've owned and probably the best driving of the bunch. I personally prefer cars with a few miles, because they typically have had most of the routine repairs taken care of.
I have 110k on the clock on my 996 and my only complaint is that it uses a lot of oil. Runs and drives great, although I did install PSS10's because the struts were gone. I say go for it. Mine wasn't supposed to my dd but love driving it so much that it is.
There were two recent sales of C4S's that went for under $20,000. Both with just over 100,000 miles. Both appeared to be in good shape. I think my high dollar on that car would be about $20,000. See this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l-on-ebay.html
Miles would not concern me. Mine has 147,000 on the clock and it runs great. You will have a little harder time selling it, though. 2 thoughts to counter that: 1) Buy it at the right price now and your depreciation hit won't be too bad; 2) Don't buy one of these cars with the resale value in mind. Buy the car to enjoy. In a few years and 30,000 more miles, sell it for what you can and just know that you had a blast with the car. Think about the guy who bought it brand new and the depreciation hit he took after 3 or 4 years and 30,000 miles (probably $40,000 in depreciation loss).
When I shop for a car, it is not with the intention of selling it a few years later. I always think that I will keep it forever
. Of course, a few years later, my taste changes or I just want to upgrade and then I kick myself in the a$$ for having spent all that money on upgrades and losing money on the deal. Oh well, that's just me
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ETA: If you're buying a 996 as an investment, good luck. We don't have these cars to make money, we have them because we have the passion (and don't have money to burn).
I'm a "keeper" kinda guy with vehicles, too, and my house is the only big tangible thing I consider an investment. I feel like this car is only worth the amount of fun and memories I'll have with it, which will certainly exceed the price of admission! It doesn't sound like guys are having to do an overhaul after 150k or anything, so I should be good to go.
And regarding the 50k mi. C2, if I can get so much more equipment for the same price (albeit with higher miles), the C4S makes more sense to me.
I would not buy any 911 or boxster without first driving. My experience has been the motors are either smooth and powerful, or noisy and sluggish. I've only driven about 7 cars tho so not the greatest amount, but this has been my experience. the best I've driven had 119k on it. I never checked, but I was convinced it was either not the original engine or it had been kept in tip top condition
I bought a 2002 C4S in March this year - 100K miles. Tip.
Good, complete service history with Porsche, but needed a little work. It was a silly low price, but most of the little jobs I have now competed (Aircon rads, was the biggest). Its been the best car I have ever bought - covered 15K miles in it (mainly in the Alps, Pyrenees and South of France without the slightest hitch. For me its a keeper - I do my own work whenever possible but keep good documentation of all work.
Enjoy your new (to you) car - don't waste time worrying about repair bills but keep her well looked after and she will give you so much pleasure to drive, to own, to look at, to talk with strangers at the kerbside, to photograph, to take the queue of neighbours young lads out for a ride. They really are the car that just keeps giving, in a way that no other car I have ever owned has done for me (I have had many).
Just my little view from France :-)
Buy the car. Life is too short not to have fun driving one of these things. "Lots of options" is a terrific bonus, as it can make the various types of drives all that much more enjoyable and pleasant -- not that even a basic 911 is anything but amazing-- and you avoid the (not insignificant) marginal cost of equipping a new Porsche that way. I have put over 20,000 miles on ours in less.than a year of ownership, and have had an absolute blast doing so.
Same boat here. I have an 04 Land Rover Discovery that I do all of my own maintenance on, and sometimes it's a lot of maintenance because I use it for what it was built for here in the Jungle. It's the same with my 04 C4S. I bought it with over 100,000 miles, do most of my maintenance and now have 110,000 on it in a few months. It's a great car. As others have said I did not but it for resale, just for fun, enjoyment, pride of ownership. And it's damn fun to get out of the jungle where I have been driving less than 40 mph all week and then get in my Porsche and drive like I stole it. Go for it.
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