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I know you guys were waiting with anticipation, coilovers are installed with adjustable sway bar links up front.
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I got a good deal on a set of lightly used JIC Magic Cross Coilovers for my '02 C2, but they did not come with both sway bar links for the fronts.
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I put the JIC collar back on and then used an M12x80 bolt with nut in the pinch location.
Use stock pinch bolt location and removed the crossover bracket
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I used the stock pinch bolt location and removed the crossover bracket.
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Any suggestions short of replacing all the suspension components (it's coming, but I don't want to just shotgun parts at it, I would like to narrow it down).
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Folks,
I got a good deal on a set of lightly used JIC Magic Cross Coilovers for my '02 C2, but they did not come with both sway bar links for the fronts. I do have one of them and the difference between stock and the "new" one is about 3" (shorter on the new one). I can't get enough adjustment of the collar that sets ride height on the coilover to get it to sit flush with the wheel carrier when using the stock sway bar links. Can I disregard the coilover mount and just use the pinch bolt on the carrier assuming this keeps stock height? I am not concerned with a lower ride height, just some improvement to the 155K mile original struts. I can post pictures tomorrow if that would be helpful. If I need to get adjustable sway bar links, any recommendations, I am not going to track, just normal street driving. The following picture is currently installed with stock link and coilover mount at lowest possible setting.
Or just remove it.
Are the bodys fully threaded? If so the sway bar link mount may be designed to be the stop for the shock in the upright. If thats the case u should order another nut/ring or u will have to keep the bracket on the shock. Maybe flip it upside down?
My ohlins for example.
Well just verify with jic that the mount is not required to be used as the stop before u remove it.
U may want to search for the length on the gt3 version of the link. I suspect thats what that bracket is designed for.
Without the stop it would have to be placed as far as it could go into the upright which would be the lowest height setting. What is stopping you from using the stock links in their stock positions if you are not lowering the height and you have the oem sway bar?
I am just unsure if I bypass the JIC mount and only use the pinch portion if that is sufficient. The other option is to try and use the JIC mount with the stock swaybar and then install a pinch bolt in the wheel carrier. Any thoughts one way or the other?
Also, JIC support seems to be non-existant, does anyone have documentation on the JIC Magic Cross Coilovers for the 996C2? Pelican used to sell them, but that is no longer.
Either way works. No need to over think this.
Option 1:
Leave the mount on the shock and rotate it out of the way to use it as a stop. This will allow u to use the stock sway bar in the stock location as the pinch bolt.
Option 2:
Use the c/o mount and buy adjustable links or possibly gt3 links and replace the sway bar stud with the correct bolt and nut. The bolt is available through Porsche but ithe autoatlanta pet drawings dont show it. I had a dealer look up the gt3 drawing for the front upright and they found the bolt.
Most pefer the 2nd option as it allows u to adjust the upper mount for better geometry and will allow easier use of a gt3 style bar if desired.
I used the stock pinch bolt location and removed the crossover bracket. I have ensured the link does not angle forward or backward as to not increase any preload on the sway bar. Currently working on the rears but all appears to be going to plan.
Thanks for all the help!
Be carefull that bracket may act as a "stop" to prevent the shock from sliding into the upright. The pinch bolt is not enough to hold it in place as it goes down the road.
I know you guys were waiting with anticipation, coilovers are installed with adjustable sway bar links up front. I put the JIC collar back on and then used an M12x80 bolt with nut in the pinch location.
Aftet the initial difficulty, it seems to have gone well. Now off to get an alignment and then install new tires.
As always, thanks to you folks on the forum that make DIY ownership possible.
Alignment accomplished, but now there is a "springy" sound when unloading the front right tire. There is a similar sound, although much quieter on the left. No sounds from the rear. This car does have I believe the original other suspension bits, but the rubber in those appear to be okay. Any suggestions short of replacing all the suspension components (it's coming, but I don't want to just shotgun parts at it, I would like to narrow it down). I do have new Lower Control Arms coming, maybe the ball joints are the issue?
Thanks again.
Is the spring under sufficient pre-load even when the front wheel is in full rebound? If not, then that could be the source of the noise.
In my experience worn ball joints or rubber bushes do not cause 'springy' sounds.
Do you have pictures you could post of what the front coil-overs look like currently after the choices you've made? That would help in a major way, I expect.
I adjusted the preload. The JIC Coilovers do not have a detent for the coil and helper springs, so I ensured that their bearing surfaces were cleaned and have a dry film lubricant to assist in rotational movement. As of now it appears to have fixed the issue. In response to theprf, the sound was not necessarily when turning, but also when the wheel was unloaded.
Due to an inability to remove the noise and general issues that felt like worn out components, I decided to swap out the coilovers with a set of Ceikas. While in there, I made sure to replace all suspension components. Everything has been replaced and now it is as quiet as can be. The Ceikas feel firm, yet comfortable on the hardest setting.
The springs are 5kg/mm front and 7kg/mm in the rear. I know that I shotgunned parts, but it was probably the best option.
I do have the JIC's if anyone wants them. Be advised, the rears have seen better days and the top mounting bolts will need to be replaced. The coilovers will more than likely need serviced/rebuilt and are probably missing parts (I had to rob the sway bar link mount on the front to use as a spacer for the Ceikas).
Make an offer if you want them.
