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Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

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YOUR RESEARCHDo I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

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The Y cable isn't expensive, so you may as well replace it while you have it disconnected from the starter.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?
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Replace starter and now it spins right up

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Replaced the starter and now it spins right up.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

Recommend having a shop do it

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Is this a DIY or do you guys recommend having a shop do it.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

Repair were factored into the complexity

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The engineering tolerances are tight but it's really cool to see how logical access paths and repair were factored into the complexity.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

Replace starter

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You should be able to replace the starter with just removing the front plenum for the throttle body.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?
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The Y cable isn't expensive, so you may as well replace it while you have it disconnected from the starter.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

Recommend having a shop do it

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Is this a DIY or do you guys recommend having a shop do it.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

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The engineering tolerances are tight but it's really cool to see how logical access paths and repair were factored into the complexity.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

Replace starter

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You should be able to replace the starter with just removing the front plenum for the throttle body.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

Replace starter and now it spins right up

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Replaced the starter and now it spins right up.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?

Test patience

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It's tedious and will test your patience but just take it slow and take breaks and it's actually not very hard.

Do I need new Starter or just Y Cable?
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Just because it didnt do it in the hour the shop looked at it doesnt mean it fixed itself.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Since bringing my 996.1 a few days ago, she starts up ok when cold. There's a slight delay where I hear a turn and then she's up and running. But twice now I've stalled pulling into the driveway and when trying to immediately start back up, nothing. If I give it a few minutes, she starts up but I can hear that its struggling to get there. I've read that this isn't an uncommon problem, but just not sure if this is simply due to corrosion of the Y cable or if I might need a whole new starter. Or how I'd go about figuring it out. Thanks all!

POST 2Original post

Let's try to diagnose this a little more. The starter/alternator cable corrodes over time and when the car is warm and fans turn on, the corrosion in the cable doesn't allow the battery to charge so the voltage drops and the battery struggles to start the car. There are a couple tests for this, but the easiest is to look at the voltmeter on the dashboard, What is the voltage when you start the car and what is it before you pull back into the driveway. If it drops to 12 or lower when warm, it is very likely you need a new cable. What is the highest the voltage gets and what is it when hot? Let us know.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok @996-CAB took it out this evening. The Amps were under twelve when I started it up in the garage and just a drop under 14 when I pulled in at home later.

POST 4Original post

Its the starter......but it could be the y cable. U wont know until u take it apart. If the cable ends r not coroded its fine.

POST 5Original post

It�s just easier to do both while you�re in there.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Is this a DIY or do you guys recommend having a shop do it. I�m fairly handy but just haven�t worked on this engine before.

POST 7Original post

If the voltmeter was showing just under 14 as you got home, then you can rule out the Y cable. It's your starter. The Y cable isn't expensive, so you may as well replace it while you have it disconnected from the starter.

POST 8Original post

Kinda a 2....maybe a 3 bannana out of 5 on the monkey list. The hardest part is getting the plenum boots back in correctly. All u need is basic hand tools.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sounds like you guys are suggesting a DIY approach. What�s the technical term for the Y cable I should search for if I want to buy it online with the starter?

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 19071978

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POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 19071888

I agree, that was my experience as well. I posted HERE (post #71 and #72) how I replaced that cable without removing the AC compressor and alternator. Hope this helps.

POST 12Original post

I had very slow starting even with a new battery. Y cable looked brand new. Replaced the starter and now it spins right up.

POST 13Original post

I actually just did this work because i had to replace my oil cooler, and i did the starter and AOS while i was in there. FCP Euro has some good videos on Youtube on what you have to do. My car had similar symptoms to you -the starter would crank slow, and sometimes it wouldn't start. You Tube You should be able to replace the starter with just removing the front plenum for the throttle body. Access will be tight - i replaced mine with both intake plenums off the car and it was super easy. HOWEVER, i wouldn't take both intakes off unless you are doing other work. Taking it apart and putting it together again is a PIA if you have large hands like me. Definitely replace the starter Y cable at the same time, mine had a bunch of corrosion on it which probably caused the slow start issues. it turns over great now. Fingers crossed that nothing leaks LOL

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I was at my indy the other day to get a few other things looked at so I just figured, what the hell, let me ask him to take a look at it. He calls me up this morning and says, there's nothing wrong, we can't reproduce the problem. So there's 2 possible scenarios here. 1) This 24 year-old engine/starter is behaving as expected for something of its age and use. or 2) These guys are missing something in their "tests." I asked them if they tried starting the engine when it was already warm to replicate my problem and they said yes. Its a pretty reputable shop and at the same time I don't think they'd tell me it was nothing if they thought there could be work done there and they could make some money. So I guess I'm a bit stumped. Any thoughts folks?

POST 15Original post

My thoughts r the starter is bad and it will leave u stranded one if these days. If it has had "hard" starting for u....its got a problem. Just because it didnt do it in the hour the shop looked at it doesnt mean it fixed itself.

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Quotes source post: 19078050

Just did the starter and used this video. Agree -- unless you're doing a few other things, leave the rear intake/plenum alone. The front one can really be enough of a PIA to remove. On mine (2/98 build), the vacuum line routing was different than what's in the FCP Euro video. The whole job took me a little over an hour of actual work time. It's tedious and will test your patience but just take it slow and take breaks and it's actually not very hard. The engineering tolerances are tight but it's really cool to see how logical access paths and repair were factored into the complexity. One thing I'd add that I haven't seen mentioned: have good lighting. A headlamp or something magnetic to get into the engine bay for when (not if) you drop a bolt or need to guide your ratchet to a bolt head near the rear firewall. I also recruited my daughter to help out. To NY_Swede's point, small hands help!

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