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(edit) sorry at work and may not have picked up enough on the unkown condition part, I thought it meant "it's not running and thus it can't be tested" rather than the engine died before being taken apart.
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A running 996.1 car is worth somewhere around 15-20k clean examples might go a bit higher.
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One reason was that I was ONLY repairing the engine and not rebuilding.
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The car and the engine, it is just disassembled is all, I even have a new water pump for it (I suspect the one on it caused the problem in the first place) I had a porsche repair shop fix the heads
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If I were to find the right buyer what would a non-running 996 (in otherwise excellent condition) with the gt3 body kit and most of the factory options, be worth while not running?
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(edit) sorry at work and may not have picked up enough on the unkown condition part, I thought it meant "it's not running and thus it can't be tested" rather than the engine died before being taken apart.
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Those that worked on them will understand what I mean.
I am just curious to find out what the potential value of my non-running 2001 996 would be.
It did have 72k miles before it developed small cracks in the heads and oil got into the cooling system and the engine got buzzed pretty good... now it is in pieces in my garage.
If I were to find the right buyer what would a non-running 996 (in otherwise excellent condition) with the gt3 body kit and most of the factory options, be worth while not running?
I've been looking at buying a 996 and at least in the SF Bay Area a running decent one with under 100K miles runs 15-20K I would say one with a bad engine would be a 5-6K car if in excellent cosmetic condition.
I agree with others at $5-6k. You'd probably be better off to get a used motor for $5k or so and then sell it if you still have no interest in keeping it.
I had a similar situation last year and asked $6K for it. Factory aero kit with ROW 030 suspension. Sold it to the first of 4 interested parties in 4 hours, so maybe I was a little low on price.
A friend of mine is looking for a car like this. Where are you located? I bought my non runner 1.5 years ago for $5K. Yours should be about at least a grand more.
The reason one sells so fast bc this is the cheapest way to get into a Porsche 911. 5k is about what anyone will pay. Go higher and you'll sit with a paper weight for a little bit. If also be interested in adding another one to my stable. Just all depends where the car is located.
I purchased a 1999 with a blown engine about 2 weeks ago for $5100 + 500 for shipping. Car has zero rust but needed some TLC. The dealer was a real piece of work and took parts off the car before DAS picked it up. I have received money on the missing parts (after state police were called) so all total I have about 5000 in the deal.
By the way the dealer's name is Unique Motorsports in NY. Stay far away from these cowboys!!
I guess I should not feel as assraped then. In 2010 I sold my intermixed but running 99 Black Tip coupe with 117K miles, flawless cosmetically for $13K
To part a car out you need lots of indoor room, time and know how. The large popular parts will sell fast but the rest will take a long time. If you have room for a half taken apart car to sit for years then go for it.
Reference point - I paid $5k for an 02 Targa a few weeks back. Engine torn down for cold-start smoke issues due to scored bores. Body and interior very very clean. Chassis miles 100k.
Not really, strip the easy stuff and easy sales. Selling tranny, seats, wheels and tires, tail lights, head lights, bumpers, rear hood, exhaust and cats, water pump. Will get an easy 5-8k. Doesn't take much room. Ship the chassis with the hard sell stuff to the wrecker and sell the core.
It took quiet a bit of room to part out my 928 and the 996 is about the same size. Unless you sell the parts very cheap (less than half of what the wreckers sell them for) you will be sitting on them for a while. You will need more than a single car garage because the neighbours will get sick of looking at a half taken apart car and if you well a door, the interrior needs to be protected. Its not as easy as one thinks.
I don't mean to sit on it and part out when your sell. Strip it like a NYC crew would do. Store the taken off parts indoors. The steel guys would come drag the carcase away and give your a few hundred for it.
wow, didn't expect this much interest to get spun up about my dead car!
either way 5-8k is brutal for this car, sorta shocked it is that low, parting it out won't happen, I wouldn't be able to bring myself to do it... so I suppose rebuild is my only option still... unless one of you crazies wants to make me an offer that is bad for you haha.
and for those asking the car is in Illinois
appreciate the answers everybody
Seems like shill bidding past a certain point or something shady with the low count bidders. I don't know if that car actually sold with the full amount being exchanged.
I mean even at $5k, unless you are willing to work on it yourself, it makes little sense when you can get plenty of these running around $15k.
But I assume better off buying a $5k car and then put $10k to then have a $15k with a new motor you can trust. problem is to find someone who can rebuild these things for less then $10k...
what did you guys do with your $5k cars? did they come with usable engine core ?
From my previous read I understand opening the block for a rebuild cost around $10k ? Or did you do it for less ?
So far aside of jack raby exorbitant rebuilds, $20k+, there are not any go to place to rebuild these engine really , no ?
I love these 996 and I'd be ready to buy another one but can't see any cheap rebuilder down here in Florida
There are plenty of other well qualified shops that are good at rebuilding these engines. I do all mynwork so I can't tell you who they are but don't beleive it for one second that there is only ONE shop on the planet that can rebuild these, or any other engine. They are piston engines and piston emgines are more or less then same. Those that worked on them will understand what I mean.
I fixed my non running 996. Cost for parts was $2K and the better part of all the evenings in the summer of 2012. I have a thread with details how my 996 project went.
and a fine write up it was. IMO, I believe you went the economical route, and, well the proof is that your Carrera is running fine. Though you started with a nice shell!
2003 Carrera 4S Speed Yellow / 1955 356 Continental 1500 Rust Red
I don't remember the exact details but I has close to $8k into the motor rebuild. That utilized many of the LN Engineering internal upgrades and having the block nikisiled, bored and honed.
That might have included a clutch as well.
Not counting labor, a complete rebuild will be a minimum of $4k in parts alone with imsb, rings, bearings, valve job, seals and gaskets.
I used to have a spreadsheet with all the current pats costs.
Mike
Mike if you can share the spreadsheet that would be nice
I would be curious to heard about how many hours shops did charge you for rebuild.
$5k for the shell and 10k for engine rebuild, at $15k with a new engine, these cars really are the bargain of the century ! I mean that is used mazda miata money !
I agree, there are lot of places that can rebuilt it depending on the problem.
You didn't have a scored cylinder or ovaling. You can't fix that your self and you'll need to sent it out which I hear is backed logged 10-12 weeks or find block haves that are good.
That's correct, my cylinders weren't scorred but since they looked good, I never checked to ovalness or anything else. One reason was that I was ONLY repairing the engine and not rebuilding.
Trust that your "cheap" rebuild will be the most expensive purchase that can be made. Thus far this year we've received 65 phone calls from those who went the cheap route, unfortunately most spent their money in the wrong manner and now cannot afford to do it right..
If only I had the time I'd love to do a rebuild myself,
Jake, weren't you supposed to publish a dvd for engine rebuild or something ? I'd love to put my hands on it. Even though I don't think I'll ever do it, that should be a cool thing to watch
Its a book.. The M96 Definitive Guide
I am working on it again today. Its only taken 5 years to get this far.
A DVD is not in the plans, for the vital folks I offer my Engine Rebuild Schools
alright guys, it's been a while since I updated this one, I have actually gotten the heads repaired and have all of the parts to start the rebuild.
Anybody interested in buying all the parts required to put back together a 996?
so what you are saying is that you have a 996 in pieces that you are looking to sell? Where in Illinois (it's a big state after all) and what kind of price are you thinking about?
The car and the engine, it is just disassembled is all, I even have a new water pump for it (I suspect the one on it caused the problem in the first place) I had a porsche repair shop fix the heads
9 or 10k?
A running 996.1 car is worth somewhere around 15-20k clean examples might go a bit higher. If you simply remove the amount a shop would charge to put it back together plus the cost of what ever parts you have inevitably lost what is that number?
I would imagine that very few shops want that work, and those that did take it would probably charge a giant premium to do so. Even if it is only say 40 hours of labor (I am guessing because A - i don't know how long it takes to put a 996 back together, and B - I have no idea of the state of the engine) that is $5000, most shops are probably going to quote $7500 as a CYA (I know I would)
If the car was worth $17.5k before (again taking an average from above) its worth maybe $10 now. I say that because as a buyer I have NO way of knowing what I am buying. I have to drop down a pile of money then spend a smaller pile of money or months of my time putting it back together only to find out that the engine is still bad.
Even $10K is very optimistic. From a buyer's point of view what you have is a rolling chasis with a disassembled engine in unknown condition (maybe all the parts are there, mayne not) and a transmission that can not be tested either. What you have is almost the worst combination to sell.
oh for sure, it is a terrible situation, I did put a brand new clutch and flywheel in about 2 weeks before it went **** up too. Definitely a bad situation, just looking at options. For me it is either attempt to fix it myself or sell it to get out from under it to somebody that has the know-how to fix it for sure
Hey now this is the ideal way to buy one of these cars if you have a place to work on it yourself. Rather than sit and wonder you can find out what's really there and what condition components are in. The transmission may be harder to test, but even then if it's out it wouldn't be too bad to break it open and check it out - assuming that the person buying this knows what they are doing enough to buy it.
(edit) sorry at work and may not have picked up enough on the unkown condition part, I thought it meant "it's not running and thus it can't be tested" rather than the engine died before being taken apart.
Niiiiice. I love it when a plan comes together.
Go here:
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and here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/marketplace/cars/search/
Now that you are a member you can post for sale ads in both locations.
I can start with what it looks like now
https://rennlist.com/g/album/3263548
I will have to dig up pictures of the actual tear down when I get off work, but it was fun to tear down, had never done anything like that before
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