11 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW
Discussion summary
YOUR RESEARCHCSR rates P Zero above Super Sports!
Leading reported evidence
Test tires
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Performed · outcome unconfirmed
I wonder how many miles they tested the tires for.
Leading evidence: 'Test tires' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace rears and push out my decision another year' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.
Replace rears and push out my decision another year
Suggestion or failed attempt
No successful repair reported for this finding.
0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
If the front still looks good (and they still look brand new), I may just replaced the rears and push out my decision another year.
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
I don't plan to buy another set, although they were the OE rubber on my wife's Audi SQ5 when we ordered it, so I have a set in my garage right now!
Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.
Discussions that contain suggestions
1
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
The hardcore enthusiasts has a different set of criterias/priorities that don't necessarily align with CSR ratings nor their limited amount of test subjects/models.
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion
The hardcore enthusiasts has a different set of criterias/priorities that don't necessarily align with CSR ratings nor their limited amount of test subjects/models.
Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.
11 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.
Rennlist: 1 discussions
0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.
0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.
Generation: 20261026T174436Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources
I have been doing a little research preparing for new tires... and in general I see that folks love their Michelin Super Sports and have seen both positive and negative reviews on the Pirelli P Zero... and a couple years ago Consumer Reports agreed... but a recent review now has P Zero as their top rated Ultra High Performance Summer Tire!
What changed? Anybody know if this is some new formulation? Tread pattern looks to be unchanged from images I noted taken in 2011 or so...
I generally associate CSR reviews for your avg folks that need an avg balanced performance in anything they review.
The hardcore enthusiasts has a different set of criterias/priorities that don't necessarily align with CSR ratings nor their limited amount of test subjects/models.
In this case, I'd care more about what Tire Rack would say as it holds more weight for me personally.
I agree with what Alpine posted about the conseravative mindset of Consumer Reports. If we could see the review posted that would help! I wonder how many miles they tested the tires for. Most tires are good when new, but many brands you can't wait for them to wear out so you can buy something else.
I've always felt that the P Zero performed well. It provides excellent grip and traction. My issue with it is that it has horrendous tread life (even for an ultra high performance summer tire) and it gets very noisy as it wears. I don't plan to buy another set, although they were the OE rubber on my wife's Audi SQ5 when we ordered it, so I have a set in my garage right now!
The Michelin PSS sounds like a great tire, but I've never tried a set. It has a harder tread compound from what I understand to improve tread life, but that will obviously give up a little bit in terms of grip to a softer tire like the Pirelli P Zero.
Personally, I prefer the Pilot Sport PS2 over any tire that I've had on my 911s.
I agree with the above except adding in the new condition. The CSR report is flawed in this case as they do not do a long term review on it, or else it may have a different outcome. I used to have the older set and after about 6k miles, ended up selling them.
Thanks for the good feedback. Here is the Consumer Reports top half of "Ultra High Performance Summer Tires"... you can see they ranked P Zero and PSS at the top... it makes sense that you say the test if flawed because there is no long term rating on them.
Unfortunately, it looks like they don't make PSS in my rear tire size (295/30) so it looks like my choices are either P Zero for $1000 installed or PS2s for $1500 installed. Pretty big difference. Is it worth it? I'm guessing neither tire will last for much more than 10K... so if I'm replacing them once every year or year and a half, it would add up if I was getting PS2s each time...
A new set of P Zero's were on my 996 when I bought it and I was biased to not like them as much as the Michelin's (which have been on everything else I've owned). To be honest, I'm 5k miles in and I kind of like them, but then I was already prepared to swap tires out at 10k. If the front still looks good (and they still look brand new), I may just replaced the rears and push out my decision another year.
R
You might want to consider the Bridgestone Potenza RE-11A. Since they don't appear to make the low-profile sizes in 18" for the PSS any more, I think I will be changing to the RE-11A once my current Hankooks are worn. They are in a different class (extreme performance) but according to another recent thread on this forum, the tread life isn't terrible and they are very sticky.
This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.
