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Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

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YOUR RESEARCHClutch went, told not to replace RMS?

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Install under warranty too

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At that same time, RMS 999 113 490 40 was installed under warranty too....

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?
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Replace by way of reference my 02 boxster's rms

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By way of reference my 02 Boxster's RMS was replaced sometime in IIRC July of 2002 with around 25K miles on the car.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace here is it august of 2012 -- 10 years

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Here is it August of 2012 -- 10 years after it was replaced -- and the RMS is oil tight yet.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace on my car at 13 000km (under warranty?!)

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I have records of the clutch being changed on my car at 13 000km (under warranty?!).

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace ims (pelican parts one...$165.00) and the aos as well

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My clutch also went at around 60K.....Ahmet (Rennlist member) did the work for me.......we left the RMS and IMS alone.....if the transmission needs to be removed again, I will change the IMS (pelican parts one...$165.00) and the AOS as well.....

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?
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Install under warranty too

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At that same time, RMS 999 113 490 40 was installed under warranty too....

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace by way of reference my 02 boxster's rms

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By way of reference my 02 Boxster's RMS was replaced sometime in IIRC July of 2002 with around 25K miles on the car.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace here is it august of 2012 -- 10 years

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Here is it August of 2012 -- 10 years after it was replaced -- and the RMS is oil tight yet.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace ims (pelican parts one...$165.00) and the aos as well

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My clutch also went at around 60K.....Ahmet (Rennlist member) did the work for me.......we left the RMS and IMS alone.....if the transmission needs to be removed again, I will change the IMS (pelican parts one...$165.00) and the AOS as well.....

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace on my car at 13 000km (under warranty?!)

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I have records of the clutch being changed on my car at 13 000km (under warranty?!).

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace rms

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I'm thinking if they have the trans out and the car in a million pieces, replace the RMS.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

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I spoke to my guy today, I haven't had any problems as of yet so we're leaving the IMS alone but he is replacing the RMS.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

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I would change the rms, it is cheap and they are already in there.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace seal if it's leaking

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Anyway, I called my shop and they said that they'll only replace the seal if it's leaking.

Clutch went, told not to replace RMS?

Replace while they're in there

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I would definetely have it changed while they're in there.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My clutch went at 62,000 miles. Is that typical? Anyway, I called my shop and they said that they'll only replace the seal if it's leaking. If it's not he says it's better to leave it alone. Is that right?

POST 2Original post

Even though it may not be leaking, the RMS from 2003 is not the same as the one that is sold in 2012 (the part number has been superseeded to an updated 997 seal if I am not mistaken). I would definetely have it changed while they're in there. Off topic: what suspension are you running? I like the way your car sits!

POST 3Original post

If you are doing the clutch, do the LN IMS upgrade. Piece of mind.

POST 4Original post

Clutch wear varies greatly by driving style/use, changed mine at 49k, I am not the original owner though. I would change the rms, it is cheap and they are already in there. As mentioned, there is a newer part and it would be a real bummer if it starts to leak in a month. May also consider the AOS, easy job with the tranny out. I had all this done, plus the LN Engineering IMS bearing and trans oil replacement a few months ago.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 9748255

Generally, the rule is it ain't broke don't fix it. Another is let sleeping dogs alone. But of course it is up to you. You are always free to thank the shop for the advice and elect to have the seal replaced. By way of reference my 02 Boxster's RMS was replaced sometime in IIRC July of 2002 with around 25K miles on the car. Here is it August of 2012 -- 10 years after it was replaced -- and the RMS is oil tight yet. Ten years later and oh about 232K miles later... Sincerely, Macster.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm thinking if they have the trans out and the car in a million pieces, replace the RMS. EDoyle, not sure what suspension is in there. It's the way it was when I bought it about 2 years ago.

POST 7Original post

My clutch also went at 62k, so yes I would say it is typical. I had my indy also do the L&N IMS and RMS while they were in there because it does not add any additional labor costs and helps me sleep better.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

What's the cost of an L&M IMS?

POST 9Original post

This is what I had found: OLD RMS: 999 113 490 40 NEW RMS: 997 101 212 01 I have records of the clutch being changed on my car at 13 000km (under warranty?!). At that same time, RMS 999 113 490 40 was installed under warranty too.... this is back in 2003. If ever the transmission comes out I would definetly install the new RMS which is ~$30 at the dealer.

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 9748700

Parts and Labor for IMS/RMS I paid $1500 but then the clutch labor was free. Parts only for the IMS was $555.

POST 11Original post

pretty sure it is still about $1800-$2000 for indy to do IMS/RMS/AOS/CLUTCH parts and labor.

POST 12Original post

My clutch also went at around 60K.....Ahmet (Rennlist member) did the work for me.......we left the RMS and IMS alone.....if the transmission needs to be removed again, I will change the IMS (pelican parts one...$165.00) and the AOS as well.....

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I spoke to my guy today, I haven't had any problems as of yet so we're leaving the IMS alone but he is replacing the RMS.

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 9750782

To be honest, that decision seems backasswards to me. Leaving the RMS alone if not leaking I get, though the newer seals are better. A leaking RMS never killed an M96 engine. But to my mind, swapping in the LN bearing is a no-brainier while you have the cases apart. It's another couple of hours labor and $500 in parts to potentially avoid a major engine failure.

POST 15Original post

you can get it done while you are in there for the Clutch.... I would not push my clients to do the RMS/IMS work... But, strongly suggest it! You can save a bucket full of labor by working on the 3 items together.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 9750859

Big +1 The IMS bearing is the wrong place to be cheap..... If the RMS is bone dry leave it alone but you have no idea what is going on with the IMS bearing.

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