Turn Signal/Indicator Problem

Hi hopefully I�ve used the proper US term......when I push the stalk down to signal a turn the stalk does not cancel after I�ve done the turn and I have to cancel the signal manually. i have tried taking the indicator/signal unit apart as Jeff instructs in his video here You Tube When I opened my unit the main spring and it�s plastic arms were not broken so I reinforced it to be safe....the sliding part that is located with the two tiny black and white pins may have been dislodged so I put them back in the correct position. I then reassembled the unit and. checked everything moved correctly before putting it back in the car. Unfortunately this hasn�t solved the problem and the turn signal/indicators still do not cancel after a turn. Does anyone have any more suggestions on how to fix this problem....I really can�t afford a whole new unit even if any company was still shipping these items in the UK. So over to you experts.....

What led up to this problem? Was it working before or did you buy the car with this problem? Any work done around the steering column before it stopped working? Have you tried activating the turn signal, then turn the steering wheel all the way to the opposite direction?

I�ve had the car for nearly a year and it�s never worked so I can�t be sure what caused them to stop cancelling. On opening the case up a tiny piece of black plastic fell out....when I say tiny I mean tiny triangular 2mm x 1mm but couldn�t see anything from where it could have broken off. The main side pieces on the indicator stalk as featured in the video were fine and the big strong spring sat evenly in the correct position.

Ah. I think that tiny black plastic piece is your answer. Where it goes will likely fix the problem. However, if it broke off, I highly doubt it can be reattached. A replacement turn signal stalk might be your only solution.

It could be so what is it? Do you actually know what the inside of the indicator unit looks like and what the various parts do? If so please help me if not there�s really not much point commenting as it is not helping me find a solution. Hope that doesn�t sound too harsh but I�d really like to fix this problem after spending two days fiddling with the unit Inside Indicator unit Another view

I've done mine, so I know what it looks like. Can you show a picture of the stalk? I can't see it clearly. I think I am seeing the part of the stalk that goes into the module, and looks like both tabs are broken off. Those tabs are what is needed to hold the wire spring in place and allow teh stlk to snap back into off position. If they are broken off, the stalk is toast. You cant glue them back on. This type of plastic glue doesn't work so well. Crazy glue won't work.

Thanks Jim here�s a couple of photos of the indicator stalk itself. One side of indicator stalk The other side with spring and side wings intact

Here�s the slider part that located into the case slot and moves when you push stalk either way The whole unit Slider thing

Ebay is your friend...🤷‍♂️

Well the tabs are there, so its not that. The tabs are the part that always break and thatis what prevents the indicator from returning to off. Hmm ... so if the mechanical parts are good (when you put it back together, the stalk could be set in the up down and middle position), not a mechanical problem. If this little piece that fell out is so tiny, I doubt I can tell where it came from, but put a picture up anyway? If its not mechanical, then has to be electrical.

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The Ebay units are almost always bad. I had to search long and hard for one that had a good stalk. And when I did find one and had it in my hands, I took it apart only to find that the plastic tabs were broken anyway, just hadn't fallen out of place. I had to take my good stalk and put it into the ebay module. But that could be a solution if you can't find the problem. I still think there must be an issue with how the stalk is seated in the module. I doubt its electrical, but I can't say for sure.

Yep agree with you Jim....Ebay is not my friend as a friend would come round and fix it for free rather than sell you another broken one. Here�s the bit that fell out of the unit when I dismantled it sorry don�t have any Imperial rulers Tiny broken bit The indicators actually work so that�s why I�m reluctant to term it an electrical problem...it�s just the cancellation part that doesn�t work

I'm in Canada, so no imperial system for me. Yeah, have no idea where that part is from. I'm at a loss. All I can say is what you have done already. Reassemble and try moving the stalk and try moving it and see if maybe it becomes evident where that broken piece is from. I know that is hard, since it is a pain to keep all those springs in place and not have them all pop out. If it were to be electrical, then I assume that to cancel there needs to be current through one of the brass strips (or lack of current?) that causes the spring in the the clear piece on the stalk to retract and allow the stalk to return? Sorry I can't be more help.

No worries I�m not sure many people have attempted to fix this problem themselves....most people have just put up with the problem or bought a brand new replacement unit. Hopefully someone out there will have the answer and will want to share the knowledge.

I guess I'm lucky then - I've never gotten anything that didn't work from ebay... Generally speaking, it won't wind up costing you anything - but I do get that it's a PITA...

As my Airbag slip ring / Clockspring part broke after I reassembled everything I�ve been looking to see why the indicators don�t cancel even though all the parts seem to move correctly in the indicator unit itself. Then I found this photo....which shows a tab on the slip ring / Clockspring that moves when the steering wheel rotates and forces the little plastic tab that protrudes (the annoying one that�s suspended by two tiny springs) back into the unit cancelling the indicators. I�m waiting for a new slip ring / Clockspring to arrive hoping that this tab is present. Hopefully this information will help others trying to fix their non cancelling indicator problems.

A couple more photos where you can see the cancellation tab on the slip ring/Clockspring. On the photo you can see the broken tabs supports opposite where my finger is And here�s one with it still attached So in summary if your indicators don�t cancel it could be the broken spring inside the unit like Jeff�s video or it could be a broken tab on your air bag slip ring / Clockspring so don�t just rush out and buy a new indicator unit for $300 it could be fixable.

Good show! So it was mechanical afterall.

Do it like people do in Florida - either no turn signal or one that stays on for miles