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YOUR RESEARCH2 weeks, 800 miles and rear ended
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I'm guessing that something needs to be lubricated but not sure what.
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For all their "we back the work...blah blah blah" they tried to side with the shop until I sent them a picture and they finally read the claim to see that it is indeed where they had "repaired" it.
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In my case it was the service department of a BMW dealership so I wasn't overly concerned that they were going to low-ball me.
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Still to do: convertible top hydraulic fluid check (it struggles going up and down).
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Ours was a pain to fill for ages until my new Indy found that the pipe was all bent up (probably due to the front end collision or repair 10 years or so ago).
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The way it worked for me (three times, unfortunately) is that you it take to a place they work with to get an estimate.
2 weeks since I bought the car and it has been emotional roller coaster.
Car window and door lock resolved after the new battery but I think I have seen the central lock light comes up twice in the middle of the drive, not sure what it is about... Will keep monitor it but window has been ok so far granted I think I need to find some time and lube the covertible top and the window? today everything is a bit difficult to move up and down.
Last Monday after work... gorgeous day and I put the top down after work and someone rear ended me in a stop and go
I immediate panic but fortunately it was less than 10 mph and now I got crack (spider webs) in rear bumper. Went to the shop on Tuesday and they believe its all cosmetic. We are still waiting for the estimate
I looked up all the possible damage and i was sick to my stomach but I put another 300 miles since then and the car still drives beautifully.
800 miles later I am more used to the engine, the shift point and the clutch. The car felt so much smoother that I am used to it and I am getting used to the control and more and more in tune with this car now.
Tires arrived and will try to have them put on this week. Bought the Screw on filter adapter, oil filter and magnetic drain plug from LNE. Will do an oil change as soon as items arrive. I am at almost 7000 miles since the engine was installed.
What do people use to lubricate the convertible top? Is there anything to do to lubricate the windows? Both windows make some squeeking noise today when moving them up.
Also last 2 fill ups, after about 7.5 gallons it trips the gas gun and I have to pump about 0.6 gallon at a time until full. I searched and found several threads on this. checked E6 fuse which is fine. Wonder if the magnet thing was knocked lose when rear ended?
Sorry about the rough start. You should probably get your security module checked out. Sounds like a PO might have gotten caught in the rain with the top down and the module got wet. Odd things happen as it starts to go and it's probably best to know now rather than having it leave you stuck somewhere and it refuses to crank...
On your bumper, I've had a few in the 996. Don't be shocked if it comes out in the 2-3k range. If the paint has spidered then the plastic flexed. After it does that it doesn't always hold paint well. Might look fine when it comes back, but there is a good chance it will flake and peal in a couple years. Just make sure you get a good shop to take a look at it for you.
Ouch! I took some pic but its really hard to see the damage on mine... I need to re-take later today.
Good to know about possible rain damage because I am not even sure where to start. Thank you Gnat.
Oh I also bought the front bumper plug
Sorry about the accident. I had the same thing happen to me right after I purchased the car.
Cracked tail light, cracks in paint in the bumper, and the worst part, 2 cracks in the Aero Kit wing.
All, in all it was $7500 in repair for damage you really needed to look for. It was originally quoted at $2500 which is why I did the repair. As they did the work, they ended up needing to replace the bumper, and paint all of the way up to the doors to get the paint to match. Had I known it was going to jump to $7500, I'd likely would have lived with the very small damage and pocketed the $7500.
That's my biggest fear... once the opened up the back and find things bent or crunched in. Estimate came back for sit as it is now its $1400 which seems very reasonable. The person who hit me is submitting a claim to her insurance company since it is more than she thought it would cost. Now I wait for the insurance company to call me. I am hoping they are not going to make me take the car to another place and the extra run around.
The way it worked for me (three times, unfortunately) is that you it take to a place they work with to get an estimate. If you have the work done there, they will cover any extras that they find out about during the work. If you want to take it elsewhere, the insurance company will write you a check for the estimate and you can do what you want with the money. If other items are discovered during the process you will have to fight for extra money
That's what they want you to believe so that you'll use their shop which they have cut deals for lower estimates and final totals.
Go to a good good shop and you'll get all the same warranties and promises. They'll also take care of any supplements that are needed. You rarely have to get involved if you have one of the big insurers (Allstate, USAA, Progressive, Geico, State Farm) and are using a good shop.
You simply get the original estimate from the insurer's and then tell them where the work will actually be done.
Talked to USAA rep last night and they scheduled me an appointment this morning at a big chain body shop here locally which has decent reputation. Its where local dealership take their cars to or recommend.
The rep was very upfront and told me after I get the estimate from their approved shop, I can still take it to places I want to have worked on my car but we will work out the detail from there (I guess that's when negotiation and will make sure I get detail on if they found more damage after they took the bumper off).
carfax will be a little bummer but I will make sure I keep all receipt and pictures to show potential buyers... I do intent to keep this car for long time to come so it is not too much of a worry.
I know you don't have to go to their shop but that's the path of least resistance. In my case it was the service department of a BMW dealership so I wasn't overly concerned that they were going to low-ball me. I took it to a shop that I know to have the work done and they did it for less than the estimate/payout.
The one time I took a car to USAA's preferred shop (was having a tiff with my normal guy) I went to pick it (my old Escape) up and as soon as we walked out the door to go look at it I could see a giant bubble in the paint from like 40' away. This was the area they worked on.
The shop actually tried to say they worked on the other side and I had to call USAA. For all their "we back the work...blah blah blah" they tried to side with the shop until I sent them a picture and they finally read the claim to see that it is indeed where they had "repaired" it.
Also turned out that they just slapped a bunch of body filler on it (probably painted too soon after which caused the bubble in the first place) rather than replace the bumper skin like they were supposed it. Their answer to that was that I obviously had other work done at an inferior shop. Again USAA backed them on it, but I chose not to fight it as USAA was replacing the bumper again anyway.
The best advise I can ever give is to find a good shop that you can trust, become friends with the owner, and then hang onto them for life. It will save you a ton of headaches.
The best advise I can ever give is to find a good shop that you can trust, become friends with the owner, and then hang onto them for life
+996. I have mine on speed dial.
Yikes. Having the engine back there definitely increases the paranoia about being rear ended. When I see someone of their phone, I always move over a lane. And ff they pull up alongside me, I give them an earful.
It might be the vent valve. Also some pumps just don't work on our cars - I've seen adaptors for sale. Try flipping the nozzle upside down next time. Edit, found the adaptor, link below.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...Vent_Valve.htm
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...stallation.htm
This is common. Try putting the nozzle in upside down (i.e., handle facing up and away from you). It's how I have to fill my car or it does the same thing. Upside down nozzle though, and never a problem.
If I've gotta be hit in a 911, I want that area to take the hit. It's built like a tank back there and I've seen some nasty accidents where the car that hit the 911 had to be towed off while the 911 was still drivable.
Damn fine cars if you have to be in an accident!
The adapter?! what?! ordering it now and for 8 bucks hopefully that take care of it
Thanks for the information. this site and community is pretty awesome. remind me of my s2ki days
Have the filler tube and carbon canister checked. Those are the two most likely causes.
The first implies that the fender was off at some point and the tube got bent.
The canister goes bad when you over fill (filling after the auto stop on the pump) and gas backs up and gets into the canister.
Both issues prevent air from escaping correctly which triggers the auto shut off on the pump.
Ours was a pain to fill for ages until my new Indy found that the pipe was all bent up (probably due to the front end collision or repair 10 years or so ago). He straightened it back out as best he could and now it fills just fine.
That's good to know, but I was thinking from a financial perspective haha. That's the thing with these cars, the value has depreciated but the repair costs haven't.
This is sound advice and should be done anyway. A clogged tube/canister can have a detrimental impact on your fuel tank. For me, I can fill up normally at some pumps and not at others...which leads me to believe it's some of the pumps. If it's consistent, you may want to do more than adaptor.
Wow, this is the first time I've seen anyone mention an adapter for the fuel filler. Looks like a good item. I prolly won't order one, since I'm so used to the upside down nozzle thing. The $8 is better spent on a beer.
I didnt think such adapter would exist but I was ordering a parking light bulb, a hardtop mount block off plate anyway so added it to the cart. Will see what happens and I wont rule out doing the other parts but starting from some obvious first.
Still waiting on insurance as they should have the estimate from their shop now... I will call and follow up.
New tires installed and OMG... its like I bought a different car.
I had been feeling all the vibration and movement on the steering wheel the last 800 miles and I thought well it is more connected to the road (although the 997 c2 and 997 turbo didn't do the same thing, but a 996.1 I test drove felt the same way). louder road noise and I constantly felt PSM was interfereing and I can feel a little tweech here and there. All that is gone. Still feel connected but no longer those micro adjustment, the road noise is gone and the car now turns easily and move on a dime.
Still to do: convertible top hydraulic fluid check (it struggles going up and down). parking light bulb, rear bumper fix (insurance), Oil change (parts from LNE arrived yesterday.
Yup I think that'd be the problem. Filled to the mark between min and max. Operates faster but still squeaks and stutter from one spot. Now just need to check and make sure I don't have a puddle tomorrow morning
Mine squeaks more in the beginning of the top-down season and gets quieter as the season progresses. I'm guessing that something needs to be lubricated but not sure what.
Got some White Lithium lube and sprayed the joints. It is getting better but still there. Got some Gumni Plefge (sp?) stuff and lubed any weather stripping I could get to.
Thanks for the Fuel filler adapter advise. It seems to do the trick. Went to gas station that was giving me trouble and fueled to top in 1 go without problem!
The other insurance company has taken 100% liability and the body shop work is approved! Tomorrow I drop the car off to get the rear fixed.
Next is improve headlight, short shift or 997 shifter kit and I think I am done wrenching until the next oil change
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