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Check fuel trims or installing a "known good maf sensor"

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And before you ask, just because the Alpha N and the MAF Values are different doesn't necessarily mean the MAF Sensor is bad/dirty....The best way to tell if the MAF is bad/dirty is by checking the Fuel Trims or installing a "known good MAF Sensor" ...

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Run car

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The Alpha N value is calculated using the RPM and Throttle Angle Sensor to predict a Mass Air Flow Value...Alpha N is less accurate than using an actual MAF Sensor but is 'good enough" to run the car...

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Run car...also if the maf value deviates too much

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The Alpha N value is used as a 'back-up" system if the MAF is unplugged, a Fault Code is set and the DME will use the Alpha N values to run the car...Also if the MAF Value deviates too much from the Alpha N Value a Fault Code is set and the DME runs the car on Alpha N Values...

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Use actual maf sensor

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The Alpha N value is calculated using the RPM and Throttle Angle Sensor to predict a Mass Air Flow Value...Alpha N is less accurate than using an actual MAF Sensor but is 'good enough" to run the car...

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Use alpha n values

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The Alpha N value is used as a 'back-up" system if the MAF is unplugged, a Fault Code is set and the DME will use the Alpha N values to run the car...Also if the MAF Value deviates too much from the Alpha N Value a Fault Code is set and the DME runs the car on Alpha N Values...

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Check fuel trims or installing a "known good maf sensor"

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And before you ask, just because the Alpha N and the MAF Values are different doesn't necessarily mean the MAF Sensor is bad/dirty....The best way to tell if the MAF is bad/dirty is by checking the Fuel Trims or installing a "known good MAF Sensor" ...

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Run car

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The Alpha N value is calculated using the RPM and Throttle Angle Sensor to predict a Mass Air Flow Value...Alpha N is less accurate than using an actual MAF Sensor but is 'good enough" to run the car...

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Run car...also if the maf value deviates too much

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The Alpha N value is used as a 'back-up" system if the MAF is unplugged, a Fault Code is set and the DME will use the Alpha N values to run the car...Also if the MAF Value deviates too much from the Alpha N Value a Fault Code is set and the DME runs the car on Alpha N Values...

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Use actual maf sensor

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The Alpha N value is calculated using the RPM and Throttle Angle Sensor to predict a Mass Air Flow Value...Alpha N is less accurate than using an actual MAF Sensor but is 'good enough" to run the car...

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Use alpha n values

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The Alpha N value is used as a 'back-up" system if the MAF is unplugged, a Fault Code is set and the DME will use the Alpha N values to run the car...Also if the MAF Value deviates too much from the Alpha N Value a Fault Code is set and the DME runs the car on Alpha N Values...

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Use rpm and throttle angle sensor

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The Alpha N value is calculated using the RPM and Throttle Angle Sensor to predict a Mass Air Flow Value...Alpha N is less accurate than using an actual MAF Sensor but is 'good enough" to run the car...

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I was messing around with PIWIS III yesterday on my 2000 996.1 and found 2 different MAF readings under the measurements section. Both were measured in kg/h but they didn't match. One was labelled "Mass air flow (MAF)" and the other was labelled "Mass air flow". The difference between the two was 4.4 kg/h with the latter being higher. Can anyone explain why this is or where to find additional information?

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You won't find anything on this even in the PIWIS Manual or Porsche Work Shop Manuals....but :::: The Mass Air Flow ( hot film MAF) value is the actual MAF Sensor values... The second Mass Air Flow value is the Alpha N value ( sometimes called Speed Density System in cars with no MAF Sensor ) and is a calculated "assumed value".. The Alpha N value is calculated using the RPM and Throttle Angle Sensor to predict a Mass Air Flow Value...Alpha N is less accurate than using an actual MAF Sensor but is 'good enough" to run the car... The Alpha N value is used as a 'back-up" system if the MAF is unplugged, a Fault Code is set and the DME will use the Alpha N values to run the car...Also if the MAF Value deviates too much from the Alpha N Value a Fault Code is set and the DME runs the car on Alpha N Values... And before you ask, just because the Alpha N and the MAF Values are different doesn't necessarily mean the MAF Sensor is bad/dirty....The best way to tell if the MAF is bad/dirty is by checking the Fuel Trims or installing a "known good MAF Sensor" ...

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

@Porschetech3 Thanks for that, makes sense. Regarding fuel trims, my values after a long drive were as follows: FRA Bank 1: 1.09 FRA Bank 2: 1.05 RKAT Bank 1: -0.80 RKAT Bank 2: -0.19 Anything here to be concerned about?

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 20123623

If I may hijack - my RKATs were Bank 1 +1.3% Bank 2 +1.8% Injectors recently (less then 700km ago) replaced. Is that ok? As always - many thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 20123675

If below 3% or above -3% you are fine.

POST 7Original post

Quotes source post: 20123704

^^^ What he said ...

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