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The cause is the teeth on the 2nd gear dog ring are wearing down.
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just installed bens and its a little notchy but otherwise a nice upgrade
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Although the B&M may have not have been installed properly.
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I'm using the stock shifter and when cold, the only problem I had was shifting into 2nd gear.
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Yup, I ordered 2 kits, one for mine and one for the stepson car.
http://986forum.com/forums/diy-proje...t-shifter.html
he has a install video now
You Tube
Depends on what you like. Do you want something very short, or do like the stock shifters in your GT4s? I thought the B&M that came installed in my wife's car had every bad trait a shifter could have. It was short, but slow, rough, and notchy. Just replaced it with the 997 GT3 part, and that shifter feels close to perfect. Although the B&M may have not have been installed properly. When we took it out it out there were aluminum flakes peppered around the mechanism.
It would be interesting to read a comparison of the GT3 with Ben's short shifter. There is a huge difference in price but that is obvious. The difference in function and feel is what intrigues me
http://986forum.com/forums/diy-proje...t-shifter.html
With an unlimited budget, you can find EXACTLY what feels right. For the money, bens is by far the best value over stock, at 1/3 the cost of the gt3 shifter
Function First brand...with their "Classic" shift **** option. Love both.
Function First brand **** (sittting on top of their shift kit for Porsche 911/996). Very nice...
After doing a whole bunch of research on this topic, I ended up getting a 997 OEM shift console (shorter throws), the Function First metal bearing kit (more precise shifting), and the Function First classic shift ****.
Then I procrastinated on installing all of it for 9 months and I still dislike the stock shifter feel. Moral of the story? Whatever you buy, make sure it makes it into the car sooner rather than later.
I bought a 997 shifter off ebay and then some billet shift bushings from Phenix Engineering. Overall it's a pretty decent setup, no increase in notchiness, slightly shorter throws, more precise gates. It's a far cry from the short shift kits that make it feel more like a snickety-snickety miata shifter, but it works.
The "loose in the roots" feeling is still present to some extent, though not as bad and it no longer bothers me when actually driving.
https://phenixengineering.com/shop/p...t-bushing-kit/
Mine sure likes to be babied while cold. Growing up with 90s Saabs, I get the drill. The car isn't meant to be a performance car until warm, then it's slick like you'd expect from a pcar.
Notches:
There are no notches in any of the shifters. The "notchiness" mentioned must come from the shifter forks in the transmission.Perhaps the shifter cables?
for sure, at first mine was really bad but then i played around with the cable adjustments and found where it was not as notchy, i think if i screwed around with it more i could find even a better spot
I'm using the stock shifter and when cold, the only problem I had was shifting into 2nd gear. Sometimes it would pop out even though it felt like I had it in gear. So, I now shift 1st to 3rd for the first few miles when cold and then as the tranny warms, no issues with 2nd gear! Cheapest fix ever. Thanks Mike from Power Tech in NJ for the recommendation!
IF you are rerfering to a 6 speed?
I suggest you read more about 2nd gear pop out. You have a major repair in your future. Unless you fit the latest version of the detent.
The cause is the teeth on the 2nd gear dog ring are wearing down. Without a prompt remedy,2nd will become unusable.
The detent is a hack but it is a quick ,inexpensive and easy job. Discuss with Erik Johnson and read California Motor Sports site for more.
Will do. The shop is really good and the owner presents regularly at PCANJ events. I will ask to make sure. Thanks for the info, really helpful to a noob.
can anyone identify this shifter? It came out of my 996 turbo. It has a few mods/cuts out of the original 996 unit.
I Took it out to install a 997 shifter.
It looks like the Agency Power one that was in my car. Mine had a logo on it. Its also the most generic, chinese copied design so it might be a $30 one from ebay.
https://www.agencypower.com/blog/age...ter-996-997-1/
I still have two left to sell. One has been completely restored to black alcantara with red stitching done by dallas steering wheel with skirt. The other is new leather no skirt. When I switched to these not only did things look better but I felt like my shift throws were much shorter. The stock shifter is way to tall. Or you can buy a new one from suncoast.
Yep, I know, holy thread resurrection Batman ....
I've received a set of the Phenix bushes this morning. First impressions ? Not overly impressed.
I've got two shifter consoles, one a used 997.2 GT3 item and the other the 996 C2 item out of the car.
The bushes don't appear to fit into the smaller bores of the 997 console, and whilst I get the need for tight tolerances, I'm not convinced I can actually get them into the console (I have tried without success, but if I should manage to get them in, they definitely won't come out easily/at all/without trashing the console)
Phenix state their bushes are "
A direct replacement for the factory plastic shift bushings" on their webpage. We shall see when/if I can get them into the 997 console ...
I've also tried them in the 996 console, they dropped in (literally) but accordingly there's excessive radial play between the bushes and the console (which hopefully the fitment of the snap rings that secure the bushes will reduce/remove) but also between the bushes and the bosses of the lever assembly, along with axial play between the same.
Not really the fix I was hoping for.
