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I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

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YOUR RESEARCHI HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

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I think it is a fluke or since it had its FP sending unit replaced before it was shipped to me they did not follow procedure.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before
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Check fuse e6 first

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Check fuse E6 first.

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Replace soon

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I know my ignition switch needs replaced soon to.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Test with an ohm meter attached

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The magnet switch is easily tested with an ohm meter attached to the two wires and then passing a magnet near the black tube part.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Check fuse e6 first

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Check fuse E6 first.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Fill early, or overfills and spills onto the ground

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For some odd reason, if the nozzle isn't upside down, it generally either shuts off the fill early, or overfills and spills onto the ground.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before
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Check fuse e6 first

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Check fuse E6 first.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Fill early, or overfills and spills onto the ground

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For some odd reason, if the nozzle isn't upside down, it generally either shuts off the fill early, or overfills and spills onto the ground.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Fill port tube

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I'm assuming it has something to do with the shape of the fill port tube, which may not be able to receive the gas at the same rate as the nozzle pumps it out...

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Fill problem

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Has anyone tried this for the 3/4 fill problem?

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Fill system is just stupidly complex

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Seems to me that the fuel filling system is just stupidly complex.

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Fill tank

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Wow, I never knew there was so much complexity over filling the tank with gas.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Replace before it was shipped

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I think it is a fluke or since it had its FP sending unit replaced before it was shipped to me they did not follow procedure.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Replace soon

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I know my ignition switch needs replaced soon to.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Test with an ohm meter attached

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The magnet switch is easily tested with an ohm meter attached to the two wires and then passing a magnet near the black tube part.

I HAVE to be blind. Can't put gas in the 4S....I know I have seen this before

Use multi meter suggestion

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Jeff, Great diagnosis and easy to check using your multi meter suggestion.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I know it is an issue but search is kicking my butt. Went to fill up and it won't take gas. Was it a fuse or something. I can't remember Thanks guys T

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Put in the filler nozzle and you pull the handle and the gas won't go in. Gas splashes back out. Tried two nozzles. I could have sworn I have read about others having this issue.

POST 4Original post

fuel filler vent valve Porsche 996 Fuel Filler Vent/Bleeder Valve Replacement - YouTube

POST 5Original post

Check fuse E6 first. Read the whole thread. The problem is not accessible through the filler neck as first suggested. There is a TSB on it also, Fuel Tank Hose Modification TSB 5/99 2015 https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...ake-gas-5.html

POST 6Original post

Also, try putting the handle in upside down. For some reason this helps.

POST 7Original post

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??? I tried that and the gas just squirted over my shoulder onto my back. Pretty messy and not much got on the fender let alone into the tank. ???

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Well the fuse is fine. Looks like from reading the other thread I need to zip tie those lines. The TSB has been removed. Anyone have the link to it again???

POST 9Original post

Did you try squeezing the trigger just a little?

POST 10Original post

did you leave key in ignition or take it out?

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Tried again tonight. Car off key in ignition.....gas went into tank. Maybe a fluke??

POST 12Original post

perhaps key wasn't fully 'off' the previous time? think this might be an issue some are having-IIRC car has to be completely off electrically for the vent valve to function properly. For the record, I've never had this issue with mine, key in pocket and gas pump handle in 'normal' position Also, some gas station pump shut-off's are overly sensitive and can make any car harder to fill. Cheers,

POST 13Original post

When I fill my tank I can't stick the nozell all the way in or it backs up and shuts off. I just insurt it in a couple inches and it fills fine

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

There is a "That is a what she said " joke there I am going to fill at 1/4 a tank for a while to make sure it was a fluke. I have had 6 other 996's and filled up the same way. I think it is a fluke or since it had its FP sending unit replaced before it was shipped to me they did not follow procedure. I know my ignition switch needs replaced soon to. Just the little things needed with the 996 as they age

POST 15Original post

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Could quite possibly be a failing ignition switch not fully turning off, even though the key is off.

POST 16Original post

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Yep! I always gas up my car this way. For some odd reason, if the nozzle isn't upside down, it generally either shuts off the fill early, or overfills and spills onto the ground. I'm assuming it has something to do with the shape of the fill port tube, which may not be able to receive the gas at the same rate as the nozzle pumps it out... that is the only thing that makes sense to me.

POST 17Original post

I fill mine at the 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock position, otherwise only fills up about 3/4 of the way.

POST 18Original post

For me, upside down at about 2/3 full trigger works well with no issues.

POST 19Original post

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Actually, that's a "just the tip" joke... Even with the fueling stuff functioning properly, my 996 (and my 986 before it) can be finicky about fueling. Some stations I have to rotate the nozzle 90 degrees; at another I have to fuel it very slowly. There is one pump at one station I just can't use. At all. Seems to me that the fuel filling system is just stupidly complex. Since fuel fillers have existed for about as long as the internal combustion engine-powered horseless carriage, you'd think that this particular design area would have gelled. I'm sure that California's regulations against poisoning the environment with one part per gazillion gas fumes isn't helping.

POST 20Original post

What always work for me is to make sure the nozzle is parralell with the filler tube and not at a steep angle prying on the tube.

POST 21Original post

you know the flap inside the filler tube that opens when you insert the gas pump nozzle? It has a magnet on it. On the top of the filler tub sitting inside the plastic piece that holds the fuel line vapour valve is a switch that is open when no magnet is present and closes when a magnet is within some proximity. For those of you who have to turn the nozzle upside down or to the side it may be that the magnet or the switch is weakened. I was troubleshooting the slow fill up issue on my C4S. The magnet switch is easily tested with an ohm meter attached to the two wires and then passing a magnet near the black tube part. Alternatively, you might try observing the flap thing in the filler tube while filling. Try it at different positions.... you know partly open versus all the way open and touching the top of the inside of the filler tube.

POST 22Original post

Too much technology. Never an issue with 1938 Dodges.

POST 23Original post

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Yeah but how many drug stores carry "Benzene" anymore. http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ie50151a023

POST 24Original post

? Pull up - gas up as normal - like you do with any car - gas in and off you go...........why is it so complicated?

POST 25Original post

All are full service stations over here and none of the guys has ever had an issue.

POST 26Original post

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Thanks... I should try this. Mine only fills 3/4 tank all the time in normal position.

POST 27Original post

Wow, I never knew there was so much complexity over filling the tank with gas. Mine fills full every time with no nozzle gyrations necessary. I hope I'm not pre-disastering myself.... R

POST 28Original post

Has anyone tried this for the 3/4 fill problem? https://www.suncoastparts.com/product//PK9X7NOZZLE.html I'm thinking about it so I don't have to turn the nozzle upside down, or is this just being lazy?

POST 29Original post

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No, this would be being lazy.

POST 30Original post

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For 10 bucks, I may give it a try. Mine almost always stops at 3/4. That is a huge PIA when you live in NJ, where there is no self-service.

POST 31Original post

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Jeff, Great diagnosis and easy to check using your multi meter suggestion. Thank you.

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