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YOUR RESEARCH2005 Turbo S Coolant Leak
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Recommend 70k and 100k maintenance
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Suggestion · Original poster
But since the engine was out and I was going to replace the gasket I went ahead and rebuilt the heads, inspected everything and did the recommended 70k and 100k maintenance.
Leading evidence: 'Recommend 70k and 100k maintenance' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Recommend 70k and 100k maintenance' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
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Repair shop and can do complete engine teardowns and modifications
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Suggestion · Original poster
They recently moved and are setting up their new facility but they are a full-service repair shop and can do complete engine teardowns and modifications.
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Suggestion · Original poster
The time cost of that one was ridiculously easy, and what should have been normal business for a coolant leak, cost me $2800 more than the repair should have.
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Suggestion · Original poster
But since the engine was out and I was going to replace the gasket I went ahead and rebuilt the heads, inspected everything and did the recommended 70k and 100k maintenance.
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Recommend 70k and 100k maintenance
No successful repair reported for this finding.
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Reported fixes
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Unsuccessful attempts
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Discussions
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Suggestion · Original poster
But since the engine was out and I was going to replace the gasket I went ahead and rebuilt the heads, inspected everything and did the recommended 70k and 100k maintenance.
Repair shop and can do complete engine teardowns and modifications
No successful repair reported for this finding.
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Reported fixes
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Unsuccessful attempts
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Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
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0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
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Suggestion · Original poster
They recently moved and are setting up their new facility but they are a full-service repair shop and can do complete engine teardowns and modifications.
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
The time cost of that one was ridiculously easy, and what should have been normal business for a coolant leak, cost me $2800 more than the repair should have.
0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.
0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.
Suggestion · Original poster
But since the engine was out and I was going to replace the gasket I went ahead and rebuilt the heads, inspected everything and did the recommended 70k and 100k maintenance.
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This ordeal started in a local indy shop. That person identified the leak, pulled the engine charged me $4200 and failed to fix the leak he identified.... pretty much a waste of my time and in the end he told me to take my business somewhere else because he was not going to compensate me in any way.
thank god for Evolution Motorsports....they not only identified the problem.... they fixed it at a very reasonable cost. These guys are true professionals and once again I learned a lesson that you get what you pay for. Sam, Nick and John the engine builder did a superb job on my repair.
and BTW if the original shop had just taken the 15 minutes that it took EVOM to remove the oil tank the leak would have been identified and I would not have had to pull the engine 2 times. The time cost of that one was ridiculously easy, and what should have been normal business for a coolant leak, cost me $2800 more than the repair should have. The difference between $80/hr. and $110/hr.
attached is a picture of the leak as finally identified by EVOM
This failure appears to be factory original since the OEM original gasket was still installed as well as the original head bolts. There was nothing associated with head lift as constantly used as an excuse by the indy shop.... the head bolts were all in spec. It appears the gasket was the failure from the factory and it was leaking all along. I think most technical people understood that head lift is catastrophic and would result in many other obvious failure modes and easily identified. The leak was so small that the original owner most likely was waiting for something to happen more substantial and it never did. I could have probably drove the car and never had a problem. But since the engine was out and I was going to replace the gasket I went ahead and rebuilt the heads, inspected everything and did the recommended 70k and 100k maintenance. For having 68k miles and a GT660 kit this engine was in remarkable shape. Another testament to the EVOM engineering and parts.
The last decision I made was to remove the GT660 kit and the Fabspeed exhaust and return the car to factory original...well almost. I was able to find every OEM part I needed either on Rennlist or Ebay. It took a while but thank god for the internet. Everyone thought I was crazy and maybe I was. I also was able to sell all the GT660 parts on Rennlist and it more than paid for the OEM parts I needed and helped to offset the head rebuild. I also found a set of new Bosch OEM Fuel Injectors for $235 from all places Riga, Latvia that really was a very seamless transaction…..look for these guys on Ebay start245 or facebook, they saved me a lot of money
I kept the EVOM tuner, intake Fabspeed headers and Fabspeed intercoolers. I also did transmission, suspension and front end work so I now basically have an almost factory new car. The 2005 911 Turbo S is the last 996TT and this car is a special-order color and a coupe. Very few coupes were imported and in all, from what I could research, there were only about 600 996TT’s imported in 2005. So, I think the car has more value long term as a factory original then a race car.
Good to hear your car is back on the road again. Make sure you also share your story with the rest of the turbo guys in the TURBO forum:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turbo-forum-61/
EDITED to post the correct link
don't know why the link screwed up. I got my injectors there after lots of research. Their price was better than even EVOM could get injectors for....$235 for 6 stock Turbo S injectors including shipping from europe. about half of anywhere else I found them. I just wanted to pass on the link for what appeared to be a good reference for porsche parts to members
The advertise on ebay as Start245
808Bill
I have a personal company attorney that has all of the information if I decide to go down that path and I have fully documented everything.... if you have sued anyone you know that only the lawyers win.
If I can save a few people the headache of using that guy then I accomplished my goal. Word of mouth and social media is much more powerful then suing.
Some business people are so short sighted and never see that one poorly treated customer with a social media account turns into many lost customers. There are many stories about Yelp and Angies List and others and the impact they have on a businesses cash flow.
I wanted to give a shout out to Evolution Motorsports in Phoenix AZ. If you live in Phoenix and you need work on your Porsche they are honest, skilled, knowledgeable and very detailed in their workmanship. Give Sam Stone a call. They recently moved and are setting up their new facility but they are a full-service repair shop and can do complete engine teardowns and modifications. I could not have recovered from the first guy at the personal financial cost to me without them.
