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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I replaced all brake pads, rotors, sensors and shims (dampers) and brake fluid (twice). These are Zimmerman coated rotors with Akebono pads. I assume this is a caliper that needs to be rebuilt? See pic. This is only happening on the driver side front corner. All other discs are perfectly shiny. Thanks in advance! 1999 C2 Cab

POST 3Original post

Quotes source post: 18193431

What does the other side of the rotor look like?

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 18193487

Yep. Maybe 1000 miles and a track day.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Don�t know, I guess I can snap a pic.

POST 6Original post

When you took the old pads and rotors off, was wear equal across both left and right front? Like was the driver side front worn more than the passenger side front? I guess what you're showing could be a sign that a piston isn't working properly and would need a rebuild like you mentioned, but what does surprise me is that since the pistons are in a line and sweep the full face of the pad, I'd almost expect the top or bottom of the pad to be wearing quicker if you had a piston not working properly, not the inside or outside of the pad/rotor to be wearing unevenly. Hope that makes sense, was trying to figure out how to describe it without a visual.

POST 7Original post

I would pop out the pads and inspect. Something is preventing the full face of the pad from bedding into the rotor. The outer rotor marks looks like maybe debris is stuck between the pad and rotor.

POST 8Original post

yea that looks like more of a pad issue than a caliper issue. flip the pads inside/outside or right to left and see how it wears. akebono is generally a street pad, so if you have a track day on them, they may be done

POST 9Original post

Pull the rotor and put it on a turntable and see what song it plays. That will give you the answer. p.s. you might have to play it in reverse. Could be backward masking.

POST 10Original post

A little more driving/braking will clear that up. It just looks like some surface rust from washing and putting away that has not worn completely off yet..All the surface rust doesn't magically all disappear at the same time, even on a near perfect surface, much less on one that has seen a Track Day.. I have seen cars on the Porsche Lot that have been washed on the lot and let sit that would actually not move would or slide one wheel from the surface rust. I saw one slide a front wheel for about 100 feet before it finally broke loose and started to clear off the rust...lol

POST 11Original post

Did you bed the pads in when you put them in?

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I had this same issue with the old rotors, so I don�t think it�s the rotors or pads. When I check online, similar issue, people reported �caliper slide pin / slide pin boot due to the lack of uniform pressure being applied here.�

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I did. Then I did a track day.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 18193797

I did go out and try a few hard stops, but it doesn�t clear up the rust.

POST 15Original post

Mike, you probably need a caliper rebuild. A piston is probably sticking. Happens especially with 22 year old calipers. I've had my Brembos rebuilt a few times. Doubt anything is wrong with your new rotors and pads. The outer groove may be from a piece of gravel that got jammed in the caliper. Had that happen as well. As the rotor wears down, the groove goes away. Same can be said with rust ring once all four of the pistons are working. Rebuild kits are fairly cheap. With your mechanical skills, you can probably do it without braking a sweat.

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 18194193

Thats what I was thinking. I�ll have to look into the cost of doing all 4 or just the one. Also, separately, all 4 calipers have the paint clear coat coming off, so I may do something about that too.

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Quotes source post: 18193797

What is it with Porsche rotors rusting so much anyway? I have a Z4MC with drilled rotors and they do not slew off anywhere near as much rust. In fact after several years and about 10K miles the unbraked surfaces still look like new, bare metal. My 996 rotors throw off so much rust that the brake dust is iron ore colored.

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 18194492

I am in the same boat with caliper paint. Going to hold off until next year and rebuild all 4 again and repaint. Always a project to do, but it's all part of the fun.

POST 19Original post

Is there an exchange vendor for the brake calipers? id like to take mine off have exchanged for a rebuilt set painted and ready to go lmk if you guys have had any experiences

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 18194953

PMB performance in Utah. started out rebuilding 914 and early 911 brakes and have expanded from there

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 18194953

I�m glad you asked, I might go this route, or look for a rebuild service for my originals.

POST 22Original post

Everyone has different levels of mechanical ability, but I have rebuilt many calipers over the years (no 996) with great success. Most were single or double piston (one on each side), but I did do 4 piston Corvette brakes one time. The cost was usual about $10-50 plus paint for a pair depending on the number of pistons and wether or not I could get new pistons vs just new seals and usually only took about an hour if not painting and not too rusty, which yours shouldn't be. An air compressor helps a lot to get the pistons out.

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I called these guys. They appear to be a high quality company that rebuild and refinished like the factory. $499/pair for like-new and freshly painted calipers, multiple coats, and 3 clear finishes after the logos, now that�s good work. I guess Porsche Classic uses them too. I might just send these guys all 4 calipers and be done with it. They said after 20-30 years, they see lots of rebuilds, especially if the calipers have overheated on the track.

POST 24Original post

Quotes source post: 18193797

yeah I don't think there's anything here either. some crap got in there on the outside and the rust is nothing IMO

POST 25Original post

Quotes source post: 18195433

Good option and fair price. As an Fyi, Eurosport has a paint facility now. They have historically rebuilt mine but I never asked them to repaint them. It may be as easy as dropping your car off and having them do it for a similar price. FWIW.

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 18195559

Appreciate that. I would have to ship and double box these to Utah, so there�s a risk and cost there too.

POST 27Original post

Quotes source post: 18195433

I think you�ll be very happy. I don�t know what COVID did to their turnaround time, but 5 years ago they rebuilt my 914 calipers and they were fantastic

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