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28 people checked their 401(k) statements within the last week.
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Used 997s and 991s are filling up the market space and a lot of 996s are being parted out and scraped or being driven into rough shape.
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I'm just stating that if you want a 996, now is probably the best time to buy it you will see.
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Will be interesting to see how these cars do. Between the current stock market turmoil, CV-19 fears and a large number of cars for auction at one time some bargains may be had.
At first, I thought you were talking about Porsche 996 only, but I see you're talking about everything 911 in BAT. Your title is a little misleading. Not all of the 30 in the 911 group are "Carreras". There are Targas, GT3, GTS, Turbo, etc. BaT only approves about 3-4 Porsche cars per week in each 911 category. For example, there are only three 996 cars active (i.e. LIVE auction) at the moment. No telling how many got rejected. Apparently, BaT is very picky about which cars are brought to the public arena.
Bat, besides what people think that they are so great, is really a greedy business. There can be a nuclear bomb go off and they will still run your car at no reserve. They don't care about sellers like they used too. They even run on some holidays. One time I was selling a mint Porsche 968. I do my research, they show up every 3-4 months. Cool, no reserve. What does BAT think is no big deal? They run 2 968's with reserves BEHIND mine. So all the peanut gallery guys think they will get a great deal on the ones after mine. So what ends up happening is that my car goes for less. Those 968's behind mine did not meet reserve.
Bat is sort of like a little bubble. All of those guys who comment on the site worship them and the negative comments get "censored" so they can create their own little bubble of good will followers. There has been a bunch of people with bad experiences on that site that you don't ever hear about. They will absolutely saturate the market and they do no care if sellers don't do well. It really is a skeleton crew who run that joint who are overwhelmed. They really just try to pump out as much money as they can as fast as they can. They are now an important, probably vital part of the classic car market. But far from perfect. I still like them enough to do some business with them lol.(as a seller)
Interesting. Maybe they could make even more money for sellers and for themselves, by offering a brief temporal exclusivity for an added fee. Meaning if I put my 1999 C2 coupe on, I am assured there won't be a similar offering within my auction window. Just a thought. Or maybe if I elect exclusivity, they get X percent of the sale price as a mutual incentive to see hammer price go as high as possible. Or perhaps their percent of the hammer price is only above some reasonable threshold outcome.
So many factors in the market right now.
If the feds drop interest rate again, it would be a plus for values, but the market is flooded right now.
It looks like a lot of sports cars are for sale on different selling sites, not just Porsche.
You could be correct, good time to buy, but maybe not so good time to sell
Anyone check out Doug Demuro�s new auction site carsandbids.com? Seems like a bit more of a relaxed atmosphere for regular folks who have their own ideas of what a �cool car� is. I think the 996 crowd would fit in great over there.
I�ve been on it daily. Definitely think you have more of shot at getting a deal over on Dougs site. BaT prices have been pretty crazy over the past couple of years or so.
Yes and one of the first cars to sell on there was a 996, think it went for around $30k. I will be interested to see what sort of impact cars and bids will have on BaT,
Rare colours and options. In my opinion, this is a very rare car and maybe the best spec'd non-aero I have seen. That being said, the cost probably would have kept me away. You could buy a roller and install a stocker FSI for less.
I remember when I could've bought a 911SC as a young man in the 10s. I also remember I could've bought a Ferrari 308 in the 20s. I passed on all of them, and regret it now. I can see that in 10 years, everyone will be posting about all these bargain 996s that they passed on. I got mine for 18.5, and doubt I could find another in same condition today for that price. It's probably a 22k car as it sits now at least. It should only go up too, but I really enjoy driving it too much to even care. I will leave it to my wife and kids.
And I could have bought a warehouse full of E30 M3s for 7k each in 2007 and my dad could have bought brand new Dodge Daytonas for hundreds during the gas crises.
Speculating the car market doesn't seem like a viable plan or business model.
Yep, I passed on a 308 GTS for $16K.
Also sold my running freshly repainted Porsche 912 for $6000. ( I made money on it)
I'm glad I bought my 996 with 50K miles almost three years ago for $20K.
I'm keeping it...but it is a driver.
It will have a LOT more miles on it before 996s go up significantly in value. (already added 30K+ miles)
I paid 27.5 for my 2003 aero with 64k. it is yellow tho...
i think everyone who was holding on to these cars thinking they were worth nothing is now dumping them on BAT
in a few months it will die down like the e30m3 dump fest a few years ago.
or the mcoupe
or the mroadster
fun to watch!
I didn't suggest speculating on the car market as a business. Storage and maintenance costs make it a losing proposition. I'm just stating that if you want a 996, now is probably the best time to buy it you will see. Used 997s and 991s are filling up the market space and a lot of 996s are being parted out and scraped or being driven into rough shape. The current economy has made business difficult regardless.
Something tells me that when my car is finished in September the 9 month wait will have been well worth it. For now, I just drive other people's cars haha.
