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The cars weren't the problem it was the dealers.

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Use rope method - took me hours

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Hardest task was installing the front windshield using rope method - Took me hours to get it to sit correctly and almost tore the original headliner doing so.

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Weird to think my car is actually gone but I know it was the right move for our family.

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Hardest task was installing the front windshield using rope method - Took me hours to get it to sit correctly and almost tore the original headliner doing so.

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Hardest task was installing the front windshield using rope method - Took me hours to get it to sit correctly and almost tore the original headliner doing so.

Sold my 1959 Super Sunroof
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The cars weren't the problem it was the dealers.

Sold my 1959 Super Sunroof

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Weird to think my car is actually gone but I know it was the right move for our family.

Sold my 1959 Super Sunroof

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Since I spend time on the 996 forum, thought the post would be appropriate - Really never thought this day would come - Couldn't resist the offer I received last week and after serious consideration, I sold my longtime friend. We plan to construct a 48 unit apt building in the next couple of years and I couldn't justify passing up the offer. I rescued my 59 sunroof from a local Seattle garage 30 years ago and restored it myself. Just needed to be stripped and re-painted. Took it completely apart and put back together myself. Hardest task was installing the front windshield using rope method - Took me hours to get it to sit correctly and almost tore the original headliner doing so. Weird to think my car is actually gone but I know it was the right move for our family. Not being selfish in these situations is like defying gravity.

POST 2Original post

Yeah, I thought you said you'd never sell that car. Well, never say never. We have a similar model in the museum right now (February is Porsche Month). It's a cabriolet, though. Beautiful condition. When the owner told me what it was worth, I just about choked. I had no idea they are now worth that kind of money. So, you've sold the car, but you still have the memories.

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I sold this car a few days ago....since I bought a Porsche, basically never drive it any longer. I am doing a kitchen remodel this summer, so it will almost pay for a built in 42" Fridge. <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5L0qvQCYJzhpE32Tb9rAHPeFVCQSrNEuHXOzQ_FByPCkQQN1qgBeJWXXlxb2GcVcgGqFuVwc UTyOO1-CzxMkcgIDTWQYwV2brwO65-60Tc6HNmzDJ4pfid7MHRd7F5bLI3H4CMfI1Mm3UX7zloFRP-ux0dbW95kyLwvT1aBJHIV-RMQjDP-2fzt-Clcq9Zre1qyBlYF_L39O1pqckKFDVifKx1MYn0i0LjcMvki-u0Mp5E63i00us_rMBfVStvoLB-AR55-JdJ3oj3BKJG6ADmopsnCnIWNNMZrM2prx0QAc9ACQUCSHtN6sW-N14cqFsi7gtWUx1yOv79wQ1aINk_JUxbPTBWBTtMSN2pQNhxE65z8ENys5BL4-k6aDCSQ-rlaVPCjask-lC-ruw4UJF45Uhb-AU0TkGDZUaKVKCnWgGpKUuoxeei5mFeNZTfpn7whEPvrww4eN-oo9B9BiDSHN9w7_KXZ6wBzfJ10mdi19TFx1jzq7pfQKr94l5uuuKSe8bf4uVP9I56YGT-uJlwidiLJAru3KE9osUuz7H_Dr4Xp2NPHafiuN1Q4yshaUyEg=w900-h598-no"> <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZRw816GwCQP3MibYb6wP4rhn9mc7MWqJbvdaNJlFElN8Ew34l8L9uFQqI4cUovdXFDEKt_6b v22UfckXQBc30UGvjBeV9RHORZIG_dWnZzJErIs_2S-mhLPI40X9PAXKdjdnphbuESOkweKAkOn0Zou7emnsoELju_36N6Y3AznqwokBImg8bzIYc6-5ukInNS76xPxFSOacdQMmYjSr-8U-PbCXa5iDXcAGrAysgROKwuWENAmyyIaZFIpHiU1Z-B5H8zyRpRgG0iahbNeMkrZ3CxIyiSPP79Ggi8TmIDlnH0Tshznbr4-sl91s4P-fwyyy-E2r8ZqePc-kGOoCIuzzTfm3wiufGCKJLiKWNhjnSuUckwSTQ_39lknvHCEbTA0K4AAzNlz9B4iZaYYBaJv Q7CVlsoB7bQMooO-nEfRPuAS0PV_A3sKSeq5U6YQJQrngIn95o5XySKrXKVSUD977MnQb0ESmRr9xJ4UXqiVkDVT Kgx4MbtTSk2oG-oYj6dsxuHzmPOARLMiOWBJ2jOJX1MCO4yhzHzjucFbBlg2gp1Llq8cVo5s-ozAxWTk-1N0=w900-h598-no"> <img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4PWPwaS8XWjuY1So9kjS81AmgifuT3vkucf6BPFr73fbrsaXAXfx4Wpzb_KAt6YYGdZTxH05 SPjMSMy-avfchjQY098meQS_ROhdegJKj0LTKHLLOvmloGtQv8Y_UbHIskW_97dnUB-UwrroPCize9uMBt4oPL4ckuPolf-uGqMFm_Jk_0clPJPUOFbsU-JOrh6g_AR3nqtHZal9BCzclCmonsMRaUwJOTpMw-e-Q4dq_u4ZyUl86vP10HOraraAyupmKVfGdLjMmO2HK-D6gzmwJb6cRLq2u2cJXcg48tG1xZ52MBK2HjVKpAaOuD_Z5w27bVjvspEETkKM1kSjNdf_vY 8gaHZ8W1luI4139kPCfogiO0emjrhLum2nG0f3Atfn6RTK2evITp0KhN7kkA17WMowZj_u1n DCpA49IvZcos9k4WnI-ZJTtimIn5O9yDjyA9tFomV4p8pckZM7zRbqQu1EqfwfyrBHeQRuw_MPWTnWoCZ7XtsUMwa7l TVKEEapMotazROxYOoQCfYX550CYTucpXGJl1GhO6MZACgp0nZtaPZwAUdMFuKQZ7KNFjs=w 900-h598-no">

POST 4Original post

Is that a Euro import or did you do the Euro bumper conversion?

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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if you're referring to my 59 356, it was imported without over rider bars as indicated on cardex build sheet. my car was special - sunroof coupe with super motor - hard to find one of these now.

POST 7Original post

My Alfa is a 73 (or was it a 73?)....so those are stock bumper...they are cool, stainless steel.

POST 8Original post

Other than the insane values, I never really cared much for the 356, either in style or performance. I can certainly appreciate them, but they don't get my heart racing. That Alpha is a beauty. Never owned one, but always admire them for style. Mind if I ask what you got for it?

POST 9Original post

I asked $6K for the Alfa and sold it for that in minutes. I had a lot more than that into it. I included my spare parts with it....and after I looked at what I have, probably close to $1K in spares.

POST 10Original post

What year was your Alfa? I had a '79 Spider Veloce. It was green with a tan top and seats. Edit: I just saw that it was a 1973

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

thanks! i prefer the older alfa's with the boat tail rear end. much cooler car

POST 15Original post

The boat tail Spiders are very cool. While they all have Italian car reliability issues, the earlier cars are actually more reliable than the later cars. The fuel injected cars in the late '70s were horrendous in terms of reliability.

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a hell of a lot of $$$

POST 18Original post

I had an '83'?? I think and it was awesome. Not a lot of power but plenty fun in the high RPM range. I will say that the repairs bled me dry. Without a dealer network had to order parts from an outfit in Virginia so that was at least a couple-a-days wait. There wasn't a flat rate on anything so you were paying an hourly rate for something that should have taken a lot less time if they were more familiar with the car. For most shops it was a rarity. While today it wouldn't be a daily driver but back then it was. Or at least I needed it to be. There's a period, 1990?, when cars changed and got really reliable. Maybe Japanese pressure? Don't remember but glad we're in this era!

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

i don't think italian cars ever became reliable - loved my 78 308 but always had issues - it was low mileage at the time - 18K in 1995 but couldn't bank on getting home if i took it on a road trip

POST 20Original post

You want to talk about reliability. Try owning a 78 Fiat 124 spider. It was Fix It Again Tony at least once a week. Sold within 3 months. Material is always replaceable, good luck with your project

POST 21Original post

I never had problems with any of my Italian cars...drove them every day and tracked them at least six times a year and often more. The Spider in this thread looks like a 72...if the bumpers are original. That said, it should have the 1750cc engine...though many people upgraded to the 2 liter. The Spiders have been the last to appreciate, probably because when new they were the most popular model and so there were lots of them. Very strong motors...no IMS or D chucking or porosity issues and clutches lasted forever. Put extra air in the tires and take them to the track, flog them all day and drive them to work on Monday. 58 Spider Veloce, 64 Sprint GT, 74 GTV, 77 Alfetta Sedan, 85 GTV-6, 88 Milano, 91 164 Sedan, 92 Spider...everyone gave me pleasure and there wasn't a dog in the lot of the tme. The cars weren't the problem it was the dealers. I also never had problems with my 1980 308 GTSi...again a daily driver. Bought it with 88k on the clock, sold it two and a half years later with 124,000 miles. The beauty in all of the Italian cars I've owned was their simplicity.

POST 22Original post

Well I never thought I would see the day. Good luck with the development, groove! PS - the 4S is safely stored for the winter.

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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thx - glad my old C4S is warm for the winter!

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