fullymatted.
Back to search
Rennlist

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Add to repair workspace
Open repair workspace
Original source
29 captured repliesDiscussion pagination complete · Source accounts, not a confirmed diagnosis
THIS DISCUSSION / SOURCE-DERIVED OVERVIEW

Discussion summary

YOUR RESEARCH996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Leading reported evidence

Install i found the wires are toast

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

When I installed I found the wires are toast.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure
Read full discussion summary

Leading evidence: 'Install i found the wires are toast' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, The most frequently discussed action is 'Install i found the wires are toast' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

Source reports, not a diagnosis or a success probability. Counts refer to discussions and can overlap.

Read captured replies

1 matching discussions · 29 captured posts examined · 0 partial discussions

Compare 4 other evidence results

Install on my vehicle in 2005 (after a mishap

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

These lights were new when installed on my vehicle in 2005 (after a mishap.) You can see the near total deterioration of the wire cladding.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Install shrink wrap over it and the wire

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

One by one, I extracted a connector from a plug and installed shrink wrap over it and the wire.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Replace couple sections of wire

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I replaced a couple sections of wire, used liquid electrical tape on a few other small spots.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Run into this issue

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context

Explicit resolution reports before identified causes, performed actions and suggestions. Within each level, matching component labels precede direct query mentions and inherited thread context; successful versus unsuccessful discussion counts, owner confirmations and independent discussion support determine order. This is not a probability of success.

Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I'm installing the Retrofit Labs kit on my car and ran into this issue.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure
Frequently discussed actions (10)

These are separate views of the same evidence. Frequency alone does not establish a fix, and these counts must not be added together.

Install i found the wires are toast

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

When I installed I found the wires are toast.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Install on my vehicle in 2005 (after a mishap

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

These lights were new when installed on my vehicle in 2005 (after a mishap.) You can see the near total deterioration of the wire cladding.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Install shrink wrap over it and the wire

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

One by one, I extracted a connector from a plug and installed shrink wrap over it and the wire.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Replace bulb

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

Not only is the shielding breaking off from the wiring and causing a short, but the plastic receptacles are also becoming brittle and break when attempting to change a bulb.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Replace couple sections of wire

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that performed work without a confirmed outcome
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I replaced a couple sections of wire, used liquid electrical tape on a few other small spots.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Replace harness in the halogen headlights (pictured here) you need

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Also, in order to replace the harness in the halogen headlights (pictured here) you need to completely disassemble the lights by removing the Permasealed lens.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Replace those wires or

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Since it is readily accessible, it is easier to either replace those wires or use either electrical tape or liquid electrical tape or shrink tubing to insulate those wires.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Replace wires

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

If you are not comfortable doing that, feel free to PM me about sending them in to me to replace the wires!

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Run along the seam

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion · Original poster

Then use screwdriver to make a start and use plastic prying tools to run along the seam to separate the two.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure

Run bosch headlights

No successful repair reported for this finding.

0
Reported fixes
0
Unsuccessful attempts
1
Discussions
Read evidence and context
Discussions that contain suggestions
1

0 original-poster resolution reports. Counts can overlap; they are not unique people or a success rate.

0 discussions have direct query context; 0 report a fix in that context. Other evidence may inherit the discussion’s subject.

Suggestion

It seems a lot more of these first run Bosch headlights with the soy based wiring are having this issues.

996.1 internal headlight harness failure
Coverage and how to read this overview

Counts describe captured discussions, not unique people or a diagnosis. Author identities are not reliably stored. Exact duplicate evidence is counted once across matching discussions; one discussion counts at most once per action/state. Multiple repairs reported together remain a combination. Suggestions and failed attempts do not establish a fix. Matches cover whole discussions and can include related faults, model variants and incomplete threads.

29 eligible posts · 0 unverified posts · 1 discussions match the subject in their title or opening post.

  • Rennlist: 1 discussions

0 evidence records excluded for query context · 0 excluded by outcome qualification · 0 adjusted by outcome qualification.

0 acknowledgements have no verified action link; they do not establish a repair result.

Generation: 20261026T113718Z · outcome-qualification-6. Deterministic extraction; no AI model inference. How we use sources

POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It is a known issue that the insulation on the 996.1 internal harness fails, but I couldn't find a specific post on the subject in this forum. Since I just had to deal with this while retrofitting a set of 996.1 headlights, I thought I'd start a thread for future generations and general info. Here are some pictures of what the harness looks like after 20+ years: Obviously a bad situation when bare copper is present and a recipe for disaster. The problem is that Porsche doesn't sell these harnesses separately. Also, in order to replace the harness in the halogen headlights (pictured here) you need to completely disassemble the lights by removing the Permasealed lens. I am working on coming up with a replacement harness, provided I can source the proper connectors. Alternatively, I can rewire the harnesses using the existing connectors, which is what I did with this one. Pictures of before and after: Before: After: More info on this to follow!

POST 2Original post

I don't believe that's a typical failure point for the 996. But I have seen Xenon wires like that on BMW 1-series and 3-series from faulty ballasts.

POST 3Original post

All 3 996s I have are like that and my cls55 is the same way. Crappy German wiring.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 17973488

Wow I need these redone harnesses. Will you sell them? Can you make some for the 996.2?

POST 6Original post

The wiring in my '99 is fine but the headlight pigtails in my '06 Cayenne were toast.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 17974214

Haven't looked into the 996.2 harness yet. I think it is a more complicated harness with more special connectors. Being able to source them will be key. I could rewire existing harnesses like I did the one in the pictures, but that may not be very practical...

POST 8Original post

Soy based wiring insulation! Great F*kin� idea whoever spearheaded that project should be flogged in the public square!!! How stupid can you possibly be??? (3 more for good measure) 🤬🤬🤬 (I guess it seemed like a great idea at the time�)

POST 9Original post

I'm installing the Retrofit Labs kit on my car and ran into this issue. I replaced a couple sections of wire, used liquid electrical tape on a few other small spots. I see the same thing on my '07 Z4 which means German manufacturers didn't learn their lesson over that 5 year period.

POST 10Original post

This wiring problem certainly happened with my 996.2 lights. These lights were new when installed on my vehicle in 2005 (after a mishap.) You can see the near total deterioration of the wire cladding. I did some searching on this topic when I discovered my problem. I think it is pretty common. To stabliize things, I used shrink wrap. One by one, I extracted a connector from a plug and installed shrink wrap over it and the wire. I think 3/16" fit over the connectors. I slid it over the wire and then heated it to seal it around the wiring. The rubber grommets complicated things. In the first photo, you can see where I sliced the grommet. I did that to remove it to get the shrink wrap over the connector. Then squeezed it back into place. I didn't bother with the ground wires (brown) I think this fix will last a while. btw, I'm also miffed that the black plastic trim that provides the seal to the fender and hood is deteriorating and I don't think there are replacements. Below, one photo shows one shrink wrap tube in place over a wire. The second photo, the general condition of the wiring in the light. on to the 996.2.

POST 11Original post

"I'm also miffed that the black plastic trim that provides the seal to the fender and hood is deteriorating and I don't think there are replacements." KeyWest, you are correct there is no replacement for the Outer seal on the Headlamps. But I did find a suitable replacement at low cost in a common high temp rubber tubing. Just search and you find my post, in replies to this very common issue.

POST 12Original post

Jack, Thanks for mentioning that. I did come across your post while researching this topic but as I had most of the pieces of trim I was able, with the use of adhesive, extend their life. GA

POST 13Original post

I have just purchased the Retrofit Labs kit to upgrade my halogens. The kit is spectacular but unfortunately, I found the same crappy wiring. Fortunately, I was able to remove the harness without removing the outer lens and I'm In the process of redoing the harness. I plan on posting pictures and instructions when I get this done.

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 17973488

question on this, on the second photo, that�s the turn signal, is that a separate small harness? My passenger signal doesn�t work, I bought new bulbs and no luck. I�m thinking that harness is dead. But idk if I�d have to switch the WHOLE thing�

POST 15Original post

Check this out for a new wiring harness https://www.adriantaillights.com/sto...986-c114018836

POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 19227448

Hi Eric, The second picture shows the external "harness" for the blinker function. This is separata and NOT included in the replacement harness that I sell. Since it is readily accessible, it is easier to either replace those wires or use either electrical tape or liquid electrical tape or shrink tubing to insulate those wires. If you are not comfortable doing that, feel free to PM me about sending them in to me to replace the wires!

POST 17Original post

Quotes source post: 19228203

Thanks for posting Joe! It's good to know there are options out there for these lights. It seems a lot more of these first run Bosch headlights with the soy based wiring are having this issues. Not only is the shielding breaking off from the wiring and causing a short, but the plastic receptacles are also becoming brittle and break when attempting to change a bulb. It they weren't so blasted expensive to replace, but Porsche wants over $2000 each for these enclosures.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 19230179

I use ALL NEW connectors and wiring on these harnesses, so you'll be good for at least another 20 years! I offer tem for the 996.1 halogen and litronic, sadly I am unable to offer them for the 996.2 (which I own myself) as it has too many specialty connectors that I am unable to source. --Adrian

POST 19Original post

Quotes source post: 19230479

[Image-only post; no author-written text. Original image references:] https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 19230479

I am facing this dilemma after purchasing the Retrofitlabs halogen -> led kit. My wires are toast. How did you remove the internal harness (within the headlight enclosures)? Thank you!

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 19428120

With much difficulty, lol. The 996.2 harness plug has two clips on either side that need to be depressed from the inside in order for it to dislodge from the housing. Personally, I think it can't be done with the lens installed. Even with the lens removed, I had to design my own tools to get it to come out. Still, sometimes it takes me 2 minutes, sometimes 20

POST 22Original post

Quotes source post: 19431067

Porsche gonna Porsche. When you say lens do you mean the bulb lens or the actual clear part of the housing? I can certainly remove the internal bulb lens, take apart the housing is another matter. If the latter, what's the safest way to disassemble and reassemble the housing?

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 19431077

I meant the lens separated from the housing. I put the lights in a carboard box and put a heat gun through a small opening for 20 minutes at 500F. Then use screwdriver to make a start and use plastic prying tools to run along the seam to separate the two. Takes some patience and sometimes reheating. I use butyl rubber to reassemble. I can sell you the plastic tools and the butyl rubber if you want. I offer this service but usually as a combination of harness refurbishment with installation of an RFL kit as I am their US distributor.

POST 24 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

[Image-only post; no author-written text. Original image references:] https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlist.com-vbulletin/2000x1504/2024_03_01_16_22_29_672cdc9795f8f46794f3629c9c1d59f8293fcdd9.jpg

POST 25Original post

Quotes source post: 19431204

Oh! I believe I found your website after I had already ordered direct from them. I bought the halogen to LED retrofit with the H9 AvantiLED bulbs. When I installed I found the wires are toast. Right now every inch is wrapped in electrical tape and the Avanti's don't light (but I still have some form of highbeam, from the low beam LEDs?)

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 19431224

Yes, the bi-LED means that the projectors function as running lights AND high beams. I have the Avanti's in my car too and in combination with my Bi-Xenon RFL projectors the light output is nothing short of amazing! The light set pictured above is one I did for a customer recently, as you can see it has the Avantis as well!

POST 27 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

For reference, here's a picture of the rebuilt harnesses before they go back into the housing!

POST 28Original post

Quotes source post: 19431396

Thank you! Ultimately I went the route of copious amounts of liquid electric tape and bingo, everything works, now! Cheers

POST 29Original post

Hey! This is my first post, so feel free to flame away! I just picked up a 2004 Carrera Cabriolet with one headlight not working. I read the posts and decided to use some liquid electrical tape on the abysmal deteriorating wires. Turns out the liquid electrical tape was beyond it's 'sell by' date, so I had to come up with something else. I ran a miniature file over the electrical contacts -where the light assembly plugs into the body, and then applied a light coat of dielectric grease on the contacts. I reinstalled it, and Voila! It lights! I hate the fact that I still have those nasty wires, but I needed my car to pas inspection to get it registered, so I'll deal with the nasty wires another day. I hope this is useful to someone!

This is a source reference. Confirm exact model applicability in the original material.