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YOUR RESEARCHNew Car Trick - Crank But No Start

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same, good cranking

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I Let it sit for a half hour and it was the same, good cranking, but no start.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start
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Replace crank position sensor (20 years, 100k miles)�

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I�m thinking to preemptively replace the crank position sensor (20 years, 100k miles)�.

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Replace pump and sender

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After I changed both pump and sender with good used units, I didn’t have a problem in 8-9 years.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start

Use units, i didn’t have a problem in 8-9 years

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After I changed both pump and sender with good used units, I didn’t have a problem in 8-9 years.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start

Replace crank position sensor (20 years, 100k miles)�

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Suggestion · Original poster

I�m thinking to preemptively replace the crank position sensor (20 years, 100k miles)�.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start

Replace relay too (besides the pump)

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Don't understand, your mechanic replaced the relay too (besides the pump)?

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start
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Replace crank position sensor (20 years, 100k miles)�

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Suggestion · Original poster

I�m thinking to preemptively replace the crank position sensor (20 years, 100k miles)�.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start

Replace pump and sender

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After I changed both pump and sender with good used units, I didn’t have a problem in 8-9 years.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start

Replace relay too (besides the pump)

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Don't understand, your mechanic replaced the relay too (besides the pump)?

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start

Test where you measure the amount of fuel coming

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If a test would show it, it would be a delivery/flow test where you measure the amount of fuel coming from the return line in 30 sec and compare it to the specs.

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Test won't show this

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Pressure test won't show this.

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Test would show it

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If a test would show it, it would be a delivery/flow test where you measure the amount of fuel coming from the return line in 30 sec and compare it to the specs.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start

Use units, i didn’t have a problem in 8-9 years

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After I changed both pump and sender with good used units, I didn’t have a problem in 8-9 years.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start
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same, good cranking

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Reported cause · Original poster

I Let it sit for a half hour and it was the same, good cranking, but no start.

New Car Trick - Crank But No Start
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The car learned a new trick yesterday. Drive to work, only thing that stuck out was a rough idle for a few seconds at a red light, but it immediately cleared up. (It was raining also) after the car sat for 7 hours, went to drive home after work, it started for a second or two, then died. Cranked nice and fast, but would not start. The tachometer would move up to the first mark when I turned the car to �on�, and went up one more mark (I consider it the first above zero) while it was cranking. It didn�t bounce at all, is it supposed to actually bounce, or is it being steady a sign of a good or bad crank position sensor? I Let it sit for a half hour and it was the same, good cranking, but no start. i didnt smell any gas out the tailpipe, its got half a tank, and no pressure or vacuum when I opened the gas cap. next going to jumper the fuel pump relay, then tow to a shop. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -Eric 04 Base 996 (98k miles driven daily)

POST 2Original post

Most times when it cranks but does not start it is the CPS - crank position sensor. I can't really tell what you are saying about the tach needle. Does it bounce or no bounce? No bounce is pointing again to the CPS.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

No bounce, when it�s cranking the needle moves up and is steady at the 200 RPM tick mark�.. crank for 10 seconds, and it is dead steady there, stop cranking and it drops down�.. So, it should literally bounce as the starter cranks? -Eric

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 19744496

yes starter rpm exceeds 200. Sounds like cps. A decent scanner can read rpm while cranking and that will verify the diagnosis.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank you guys, looks like it�s time for a tow�� -Eric 04 996

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

To follow up, the shop tracked it down to a bad fuel pump�� back in the road�.. -Eric

POST 7Original post

Be aware that if the fuel filter is clogged, the pump will go out again. I found this out the hard way after swapping in 2 or 3 new pumps from the dealer in my old ‘04 Boxster. For some reason Porsche put the filter inside the sensing unit in the 2002+ models. After I changed both pump and sender with good used units, I didn’t have a problem in 8-9 years.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ugh, I�m gonna have nightmares! Do you know if the clogging can be caught with a pressure test? The mechanic was concerned the failing pump could overheat the relay, so replaced it. I�m thinking to preemptively replace the crank position sensor (20 years, 100k miles)�. thanks for the heads up. -Eric

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Quotes source post: 19758550

Pressure test won't show this. If a test would show it, it would be a delivery/flow test where you measure the amount of fuel coming from the return line in 30 sec and compare it to the specs. Don't understand, your mechanic replaced the relay too (besides the pump)? Curious how he reasons that one...

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