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YOUR RESEARCHHelp pricing a high mileage 996
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Afterwards a PPI which among other things gets the car in the air so it can be checked for any leak sign or signs of other issues.
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I was not in the market for a high mileage 996 but have been alerted by my mechanic to a 99 with 205k that is very well maintained, tiptronic, with a new engine and transmission installed 30k ago.
posting was some seller, not a prospective buyer.)
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(I suspect the posting was some seller, not a prospective buyer.)
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My mechanic said he could replace the radiator for 700.
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Set aside a few thou for 'uh-oh' once you write the check.
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I was not in the market for a high mileage 996 but have been alerted by my mechanic to a 99 with 205k that is very well maintained, tiptronic, with a new engine and transmission installed 30k ago.
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A test ride followed by a test drive then going over the car with a used car checklist in hand goes a long way in helping a prospective buyer formulate an opinion of the car.
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A test ride followed by a test drive then going over the car with a used car checklist in hand goes a long way in helping a prospective buyer formulate an opinion of the car.
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Gents,
I was not in the market for a high mileage 996 but have been alerted by my mechanic to a 99 with 205k that is very well maintained, tiptronic, with a new engine and transmission installed 30k ago. New tires, new brakes, great interior. My gut is his asking price is high, but I wanted to get a survey without putting the price up so I do not skew/bias things. I would have never thought about a car with such miles but the mechanic says it is in superb shape. Let me know what you think! In Cali, if that matters
Define new engine. There can be huge variance in rebuilds or crate engines.
A 100k mile '99 is worth about 17k. Tips are less desirable but don't seem to have a huge effect on the price. Maintenance history can add to the value. But there are a lot of "deals" out there if you look hard enough on '99s. It's an awesome year but don't buy the first one you see.
Yeah, a '99 C2 Tip with 200k on the chassis sounds like a $10-12k car. If the installed engine/trans were new and well-documented (as opposed to rebuilds or pulled from another car), then maybe a bit more than that.
engine was rebuilt, transmission I am not sure new vs rebuilt, but they were done at the same time. I am awaiting the receipts.
I brought the mechanic another car for a PPI (what I thought was going to be a great deal a '01 single owner 58k miles with engine replaced by porsche at 26k) and he found all kind of issues, moreover the owner withheld some info regarding body work that left us both a little uneasy and untrusting. He then said he had another client that's wife wants him to sell his car, at that it was in excellent mechanical shape. That is this 200k car.
Atelectatic describes when your lungs partially collapse, like when you buy a bad 996 and it sucks away all your money
. Truthfully I've used that username a few websites because no one ever has it. I am in medicine, but not a pulmonologist. My quest for a beautiful, fashion-over-function ride may tip you off- plastics
Yeah, kromdom, you saying that is like me saying I
kinda
like red cars.
OP - $15,000 absolutely tops. No matter how nice it looks. No matter how nice it drives. No matter how strongly your mechanic recommends it.
(unless it's Guards Red, then $30,000 tops)
LOL, gotcha. All kinds of scenarios going thru my mind.....had flashbacks of my crash course in combat medicine...tracheal deviation, needle thoracentesis, etc.
Porsche + plastics...1-2 punch CHICK MAGNET
Start at about $10k for high mileage chassis. Add a few depending on the name on the rebuilt engine, and the list of materials. As has been said, rebuild quality can vary greatly.
For a car with good service history, maybe a nice option list, good detail job, one owner, IMSB and other catch-up stuff done, I can see low 20s. Even this case of 200k plus with a fresh engine from a good source, very nice shape, sporty options could go near 20k. It's all about the details.
Nice '99-2001 996 coupes can be found for sale in the $15-18K range everyday. High Mileage? Deduct 10-15%. (I suspect the posting was some seller, not a prospective buyer.)
relinuca
My usual advice is to visit a used car pricing site, or sites, and plug in the car's numbers and condition and see what trade-in/wholesale, private sale, retail sale numbers come up.
For a quick sale the car's value is its wholesale/trade-in price (or a bit less). If a dealer took the car in on a trade he could sell the car for this amount at a car auction site. If a private owner traded in the car he would get its trade-in value as a trade in allowance.
How much over a car's trade in value one pays depends upon how dear the owner values the car and how dear a prospective buyer values his money.
Rebuilt engine/transmission always brings with it some concern about who did the "rebuild", what was done exactly (opinions of what a rebuild is are all over the map), and if there is any warranty.
30K miles ago and no details on the rebuild I would probably not assign any premium to the car's value based on this "rebuild" and in fact could consider the "rebuild" a bit of a negative.
Back when I dabbled in engine rebuilding -- as a DIY'er not as a professional -- my auto tech buddies advised me it was better to buy a car with a running engine and in as good as shape as I could get then rebuild the engine or have it rebuilt. This way I would know the starting platform, the engine, was at least running and reasonably well, had not suffered any overheating or loss of oil problems, and of course I could have control over just what was done or not done and what parts were used, etc.
Obviously if one is interested in the car a thorough used car check out is a must.
A test ride followed by a test drive then going over the car with a used car checklist in hand goes a long way in helping a prospective buyer formulate an opinion of the car.
Afterwards a PPI which among other things gets the car in the air so it can be checked for any leak sign or signs of other issues.
What I would pay, and what others might pay are likely not the same. Note also that I qualified my estimate with a lot of 'if-then' statements. My car was bought from a shady dealer, in a back alley, with no receipts, bone stock IMSB, no catch-up mx, and questionable providence. All that conspired to put it in my price range.
Additionally, I was calling around and visiting cars that were in the low 20s before I bought provided the 'if-then' cases had been met. I could have paid more, for a well-qualified car. There was a red aero with 116k miles in DFW CL back in Nov asking $21k and I chatted with the seller a couple of times. It had the IMSB, newer driver seat cover, good mx history, and new engine mounts. Pretty sure it sold soon after around the $20k mark.
Before you make more of an *** of yourself, go search out some of my posts in 928 forum. I do want the prices of 996s to go up, but my estimate on the car in question here is based on a lot of pre-requisites, nothing to do with my 'investment'.
Easy there Doc, I didn't call BS on you (even though I agree w/KC...
). No need for me to go searching in another forum so you can feel justified in your original post. As you pointed out in your reply, my hypothesis is correct
Now maybe you'd care to explain how/why I'm making an *** of myself...
**P.S. While I don't believe anyone in their right mind would buy a 996 as an "investment", I do believe we'd all like to see them appreciate in value...
Your hypothesis is that I want prices to rise
due to the fact that I'm now an owner
. That isn't correct. I can disprove it if I were so inclined, but I gave you the tools to disprove it yourself. If you don't want to do your homework, and want to remain wrong about my 'investment' commentary, I guess I'm ok with that.
OK so updates:
Rebuilt engine and transmission, 30k miles ago. Had receipts but lost them. I.e. no receipts. Reliable guy I think (he is a sheriff). He asked for 14 initially, I told him no receipts then 12k offer before I found out about the radiator. Undercarriage showed a before unseen center radiator leak (no puddles after 3 days though). My mechanic said he could replace the radiator for 700. Should I drop my offer further?
Pics show how clean and upgraded interior is. I was pumped about 12k, less so after radiator. I don't want to offend with a super low price.
Rad repl job isn't really hard. It's a bit time consuming, but there's a very good write up on Pelican.com for getting to it. The rad is about $200 if you want to do the job yourself.
I think $12k is generous for an 'I lost the receipts' engine rebuild. If it had been a well documented Raby or other big name rebuild it would be a heck of a deal, but notwithstanding my grief from the cognoscenti, $12k is pretty fair.
Now, do you want a silver/black car? Do you want a tip? Do you want a cab? Do you want a mk1 base body style?
Set aside a few thou for 'uh-oh' once you write the check.
^ Concur with doc.
$12k is reasonable for a good condition car. If it goes **** up, you sell the carcass for $6k and move on. Hard to get hurt too bad.
I would walk. "Lost Receipts" on rebuilds is too often overused BS on high mileage cars. With 996, engine rebuild is high four digit job minimum, and it adds tremendous amount of value to the car. Who loses that kind of receipt? If you somehow do lose it, would you not reach out to the shop that did the work to give you a new copy? Did the owner provide you with the shop that did the rebuild? If he "doesn't know" the shop, then walk.
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