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YOUR RESEARCHLadies and Gentlemen, MK1 on BAT....

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Clean 62k mile ims-upgraded 996.1 = muy bien

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$24k for a clean, 62k mile IMS-upgraded 996.1 = muy bien

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Do we all think the market is changing on our 996s?

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The difference is production numbers, I think - they made less than 10,000 E39 M5s worldwide, whereas 996 sold like 30k a year through the first few MYs (total run of ~175k).

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$24k for a clean, 62k mile IMS-upgraded 996.1 = muy bien

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Do we all think the market is changing on our 996s?

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The difference is production numbers, I think - they made less than 10,000 E39 M5s worldwide, whereas 996 sold like 30k a year through the first few MYs (total run of ~175k).

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Except the keytars - oddly enough, it's STILL not cool to play a keytar.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It's been awhile since we had a MK1 model on BAT. Anyone here that cares to fess up to it? http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...che-carrera-4/ Let the betting pool begin to see where peeps will think this will top out at.

POST 2Original post

I'm actually surprised Mk1 coupe with 62K miles is already bid up above $18,000, but it looks very nice. I'll guess $24,000.

POST 4Original post

Fantastic, rooting for it to get to 24 or higher. Definitely possible to get something similar for cheaper in the Bay Area though; I've seen a few Coupes with 50-60k miles go in the 18-21k range. BaT seems like a great way to sell a car, honestly.

POST 5Original post

Holy crap! A silver car without a gray interior? I didn't think Porsche allowed such a thing! Nice looking car indeed. Maybe Slakker needs another

POST 6Original post

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POST 9Original post

Based on this auction, I'm going to say my pimped out 99 is going to get over $27K.

POST 10Original post

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heck, I hope someone pays $30,000!

POST 11Original post

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Yeah, I definitely don't feel so bad about what I just paid for mine. BTW - Looks nice Paul!

POST 12Original post

$23.5k, though I hope it goes for more... Tempts me to list mine with a very ambitious reserve just to see what happens.

POST 14Original post

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Doesn't necessarily work that way. For them to accept your listing they have to agree with you on a reserve figure, and if they believe your number to be too high, they won't list it. Ask me how I know- http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5618895214.html Sorry guys, but just took delivery of a very nice 85 Carrera Cab, and as spectacular as my 996 C4S is, just not enough room for all the toys. And I'm retrogressing (model-year-wise) seeking more of that certain "visceral connection" ever since the '72 911T Targa and '73 911S Sunroof Coupe I used to have.

POST 15Original post

Ladies and Gentlemen, cast your bets because the BAT auction is about to end.

POST 17Original post

Budda Bing Buddda Booooo!!!! It sold for exactly $24,000.... I won the Rennlist bets!!!! YAY!!! Now, what did I win? Anybody, anybody?

POST 18Original post

That's a pretty damn good price for a beige-on-blue (*urp*) 996 with not-very-low miles and a chipped windshield and tail light...

POST 19Original post

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Yea, I agree Chanel#5 my friend. I wasn't expecting it to go that much, but it's nice to win a bet every now and then. You gonna send me a copy of your album for winning? ha!

POST 21Original post

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Didn't you post an 80's album cover on the KK thread? Or was that a joke?

POST 22Original post

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You get this, a congrats! Awesome eh? $24k for a clean, 62k mile IMS-upgraded 996.1 = muy bien

POST 23Original post

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Oh, yeah. Heh. That was just a flyer for some upcoming - and probably incredibly depressing - gig...probably full of OMD covers. The highlight of that bad was blowing up the PA at some party we played. Never before and never since have I seen fire shoot out of speaker cabinets every time the bass hit... I patched their s**t up with some new crossovers and bought my first set of 4x12 speaker cabinets. If you're going to go broke being a musician, might as well do it in style.

POST 24Original post

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Good day for 996 valuations, makes me happy about mine Meridian is just a strange colour, but otherwise it seemed like a decently set up car.

POST 25Original post

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Awww... no recordings? OMD covers? ha! Did you sing the lead to "If You Leave"?

POST 26Original post

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You predicted it. Or did you buy it?

POST 27Original post

No, but I could handle the keyboard parts of "Enola Gay" without a sequencer. That will make your hand go numb faster than a...well, it'll make your hand go numb.

POST 28Original post

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I predicted, don't have room for two 996s in the garage and my wife would probably make me sleep in it. Haha!

POST 29 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Been there, done that. Moog, Arp Odyssey, Casio CZ1000, Yamaha DX7, Akai S900, Roland Juno and S50, Korg DW8000, Emulator II and Emax II, Oberheim, Ensoniq, Kurzweil K2000S, etc... The good ole days when you could dance gay(aka American Bandstand) and not be mistaken as one. Lol.

POST 30Original post

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Heh. All of the analog synths I had and sold to other dopes on Music Trader...should have boxed 'em up and stored them. Except the keytars - oddly enough, it's STILL not cool to play a keytar.

POST 31Original post

Sold at $24k. That's a little more than I'd have guessed. I didn't think it would get past $22k.

POST 33Original post

Do we all think the market is changing on our 996s?

POST 34Original post

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No. It's just the spring/summer bump. This is a high value for a MkI, but still within the norm we've seen the last couple of years. MkIs: high teens to low twenties with the occasional mid-twenties thrown in. MkIIs (non-4S or AE): low to mid-twenties with the occasional high twenties sale. 4S/AE: high twenties to low thirties with a rare 35 to get people's attention.

POST 35 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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A part of it is that more people are aware of the IMS and the availability of many options to address this out there along with acceptance of this risk vs. reward. The many articles of the risk vs. reward that peg the 996 as the performance car bargain of the century from major publications also help drive demand which brings up the price a bit. The poser owners that weren't truly enthusiasts to begin with dumped theirs awhile ago so now you have more true enthusiasts holding onto them and actually using them. This will start bringing down the inventory of the really great examples out there, allowing them to eventually fetch a premium relatively in the 996 market IMO.

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Agreed - as the $10K 996's are bought and dicked with and ideally wrecked (with no injuries to the occupants, of course) we start culling the herd...

POST 37Original post

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I guess this phenomenon exists with the E39 M5, too - there's a bunch of trashed (or really really high mileage) ones available in the 10-12k range, but anything that's been well kept with less than 100k miles is pretty much 20k+ (sub 60k mile cars are $$$). The difference is production numbers, I think - they made less than 10,000 E39 M5s worldwide, whereas 996 sold like 30k a year through the first few MYs (total run of ~175k). This is already happening with the C4S market, but it'll take more time for regular and especially early 996es. Not a complaint though - the volume makes parts easy to come by and relatively inexpensive, so it's really a more accessible platform that should have support for a long while to come.

POST 38Original post

I think it has much to do with the rise of air cooled 911 values, which have priced out a lot of potential buyers and forced them to look elsewhere for an "affordable" 911. I think this interest has helped push up the values, and will continue to do so.

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Well partially this and lately I've also seen many air cooled guys not wanting to drive their "investment" as much since they want maximum returns so they are retiring driving their air-cooled's and picking up one of the 996 water-cooled for daily driven fun without all the air-cooled headaches.

POST 41Original post

This is going to lead to a lot of "conflicted" air-cooled guys, especially when their wives start refusing to ride in "that stinky old one with crappy air conditioning."

POST 42Original post

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Wives refusing to ride in the car are why many people buy them in the first place...

POST 43Original post

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You know you like this song!.... Frankenstein . Edgar Winters Group . 1973 - YouTube

POST 44Original post

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I agree. Rising tide and all. And wasn't the 964 the pariah of the 911-world until it wasn't? Same thing will happen one day with our 996s.

POST 45 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sadly this was mine back in the day. Couldn't afford the Roland Axis so had to go with this one instead.

POST 46Original post

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Well, in fairness to REAL keytarists like Alpy, Buffalo "it puts the lotion on its skin" Bill Winter isn't playing a keytar (it has no neck)...that thing is just a keyboard with a couple of guitar strap buttons screwed into it. As long as it has a MIDI out, it's good enough.

POST 47Original post

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Who is Bill Winter? hahaha Oh, you mean Edgar Winter... and for some reason I knew you'd point (i.e. lack of a neck) that out. ha! He still rocks!

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