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you just bought a 2002 Carrera Cabriolet with 69,000 miles and the only serious issue is a leaking RMS?...
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There's not too many dealers that will replace with aftermarket parts so make sure they replaced the actual IMS bearing with a unit like LN.
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The IMS and RMS were replaced at that time as well.
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I would recommend an invasive PPI to inspect cylinder bores from top and bottom.
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If the IMS bearing and RMS were replaced and you have documentation of that, then with a oil change and brake fluid change (as recommended), IMHO you should really get out and drive the car and enjoy it.
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And if they really replaced the bearing itself with a LN unit, you should have a sticker on your door jamb or under the hood(frunk or trunk) indicating it.
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Hello from Central New York! I'm really pumped, I just bought a '02 Cab with 69 k for a great price. This will be my third P-car, having owned a '67 912 and an '85 Targa .I know, and agree with the adage "buy the newest and best you can afford", but this was too good to pass up. The owner had the IMS and RMS done, but the seal is leaking again. That and a few other issues allowed me to get a large reduction price in the agreed upon prior to the PPI. The car lacks records, which means I will have the seal and the IMS done again, along with any suggestions you great folks may have. I'm thinking of replacing all fulids, the oil separator, possibly the water pump and hoses. Anything else while they are in there?
While I usually hate anything that adds complexity to a system, water cooling the 911 made sense. Someday the 996 will be a grail car but for those of us who own it now, its just a lot of fun and great value. Enjoy.
Congrats but before you do anything, get a baseline of where you're at.
I would recommend an invasive PPI to inspect cylinder bores from top and bottom.
Drop the oil pan and inspect for any debris.
Do an oil change and run it for awhile to make sure the engine isn't shedding any metal.
After you get a baseline and it's ok to move forward, you'll have to decide on if you want to get the single row, double row pro, or The Solution for the IMS retrofit. Your best bet is to find a certified installer that will prequalify it to be on the safe side since you have no previous records. They will also most likely either have good installation techniques and/or the faultless tool to minimize any installation errors.
Besides that, enjoy not having to worry about sitting in traffic, having ice cold air conditioning, and not having to smell any fumes.
You must be mistaking me for some other boomvang! First time posting on Rennlist. I used to be on Pelican back when I had the '85. Thanks to all for the great ideas. I paid $10k for the car, 6 speed with 19" 997 S wheels. It needs a real going over, I have a Rennlist recommended mechanic who will be doing the work. Once it's sorted, I will maintain it myself, I think that is a large part of what makes a Porsche guy (or girl) a Porsche guy.
That may be the best deal yet. Congrats. There is only problem with working on them yourself. Once you get them running really well, you have to buy more stuff just so you can work on them some more. But dang it's fun!
The PPI was started as a condition of my first offer. They did not complete it because they found several issues right away. Things such as dented rockers from poorly positioned jacks, nicks in one wheel, and a leaking RMS. At that point I contacted the seller and told him I could not pay the agreed price. He then asked me how much I was willing to pay. I offered the $10k and was shocked when he accepted. He is a well to do fellow, and we did hit it off right away. The car does need some cosmetics, mainly the interior. The seats will need reconditioning, and it is crying out for a real detailing.
It runs very well, tracks straight and the engine feels very strong. I am looking foward to getting it sorted, and am so glad to back in the Porsche fold.
Ok, let me get this straight... you just bought a 2002 Carrera Cabriolet with 69,000 miles and the only serious issue is a leaking RMS?... For only $10,000???!
Hold on, while I get back into my chair. You got to be kidding! That has to be the deal of the century.
Post picture or it doesn't exist! haha!
Here she is, I'm giving a 90 year old enthusist a ride, she is an old sports car fan and was super excited to go for a short cruise. I do love this car, it certainly is a real Porsche. As I am going though it, cleaning and detailing, I am realising that it is a high quality piece. It goes for a servicing on the 28th, will have the RMS, IMS, expansion tank, serpentine belt, AOS done. Also the clutch and flywheel, as well as all fluids and any hoses that look suspect.
Very nice car! Have them put a new oil filler pipe on...while in there. It cracks with heat/age. Nice buy. Sounds like with the service work being done, it will satisfy you for a long time.
Well, the news just got better. I called the Porsche dealer where the PO had the car serviced... The car had a complete major service 2 years ago, and is not due again for a few years. The IMS and RMS were replaced at that time as well. The only thing due now is a brake fluid change and oil change, which I can do myself. I am wondering, the PPI (by an independent) claimed RMS leakage, but I see no oil on ground after car has been sitting. How bad does it have to be before I need to worry. I am inclined to just drive it for now, if you knowledgable folks recommend it.
There's not too many dealers that will replace with aftermarket parts so make sure they replaced the actual IMS bearing with a unit like LN. Most dealers that say that usually means "IMS Flange" to be accurate. And if they really replaced the bearing itself with a LN unit, you should have a sticker on your door jamb or under the hood(frunk or trunk) indicating it.
If the IMS bearing and RMS were replaced and you have documentation of that, then with a oil change and brake fluid change (as recommended), IMHO you should really get out and drive the car and enjoy it. It is beautiful. If the RMS is not gushing oil and leaving a major oil spot leak on the ground, maybe just a smear of oil where the transmission mates with the engine, monitor it and enjoy your drives. They really are wonderful cars!
Don't forgot the AOS though. Replacing mine next week. It only took me about 30 hours the first time on my other car but I'm pretty sure I can do it in an evening the second time.
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