Will this increase the value of the 996?

Germany and India aim to allow the registration of only new electric cars by 2030. Surely, this is the wave of the future and many other countries will follow suit; the only question is how long will the transition take? http://www.investopedia.com/articles...-2030-tsla.asp Porsche has to love this stance by its home country. I'm not sure if this development will increase or decrease the value of all modern gas-powered high end sports cars. On one hand, the new supply of these cars cars is sure to plummet but then so will the demand IMHO.

Key sentence here: I wouldn't sweat it too much just yet. Anyway, gas should be cheaper at that point because demand will be lower, right?

Should cross post this in the turbo forum

As long as your car is for fun, and not an investment, you'll be fine. The end of cars as we knew them has already happened. New cars are the technical equivalent of multi-culturalism, engineered by politicans whose sole interest is in controling of all human activity.

Are you suggesting that it will take the outlawing of internal combustion engines for 996es to increase in value?

If you have ever been to India, you probably recognize the lunacy of this proposal. The majority of Indians do not have flush toilets and access to clean water. There is still more open defecation - people dropping trou and pooping wherever they happen to be - in India than anywhere else in the world. Nearly a quarter of Indians still do not have access to "improved" sources of water - meaning a reliable source of water that people do not poo in. The number of Indian cities with complete, uninterrupted access to treated drinking water: 2. There are countless towns and villages where the water source serves two purposes: on one side of the pond, people fill their water jugs; on the other side, people poop, pee, bathe, and do their laundry. These are not people who can afford to buy electric cars. The Tata Nano costs nearly $2K in USD; the AVERAGE income in India (in USD) is about $1,500; India is still one of the poorest countries on earth in terms of GDP. People like to compare India and China - and a decade ago, this was a valid comparison. Today, Chinese are out-earning Indians 4-to-1. Nearly 30% of Indians live below the poverty line; 58% of the total population of India (as of 2014) live on less than $3.10 per day, which works out to $1,131 per YEAR. Imagine how long it would take to save the $ to buy a Tata. Suffice it to say that "99 percenters" in India do not have the financial resources to hang out in a park for a month drinking Starbucks at an "Occupy" demonstration. Once India has pit toilets enough that every person can crap in a hole instead of just pooping wherever the urge hits them, I'll start believing that they will be able to install charging infrastructure to support a nation of electric-only cars. It ain't gonna happen by 2030. These headlines get cooked up by politicians who are completely out of touch with reality. As of December 2014, the plug-in electric car stock in India consisted of 2,689 vehicles. There are 1.2 b illion Indians.

Schnell, you are so correct. I was walking down the street in Bombay and saw entire families living on the sidewalk. Very depressing. And exactly as you said, people would drop trou and crap where they stood. My favorite story about the visit was arriving at the Bombay airport. There was an Air India 747 which apparently needed an engine to be replaced. Instead of machinery to do the heavy lifting, there were about four dozen laborers - and a bunch of ladders - and they were "manually" removing the engine. And most of them were barefoot or wearing sandals!

Did someone say Tata's ?

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The bummer is that the guy proposing the legislation is probably so insulated from reality that he believes what he's saying is achievable. There might be a few Indians that could afford to purchase an electric car and have a charger installed at home - but for the guy on the street who can't even afford a 40-year-old tuk tuk to carry his family around, the idea of being able to pay for a new electric car is laughable. Indians are desperate, like the Chinese were a decade ago, to start owning cars, but the Indian government is doing its best to PREVENT individuals from buying cars. Traffic is already miserable in Indian population centers, and car ownership is just 17.6 cars per 1,000 people (contrast this to 786 cars per 1,000 in the US)... Interesting factoid: The country of San Marino - which you've probably never heard of, since it's entirely surrounded by Italy - is the only nation with more than 100% car ownership, with an average of 1,263 cars per 1,000 people.

Forget feasibility in India, we couldn't do it in the US! I'm all for innovation, saving the environment and finding the right path to the future but these kinds of proclamations strike me as political fodder. I don't doubt we will continue see growth in the electric car market but Tesla isn't the messiah. They currently have a few hundred thousand pre-orders on Model 3s that will take them a few years to fulfill. Their long term vision may be beautiful but, let's be honest, most of it is predicated on federal subsidies and tax breaks marketed against a a "clean future" rife with vehicles requiring energy from sources mostly dependent on fossil fuels using an electrical infrastructure incapable of supporting that vision. It's a shell game, if not a Ponzi scheme. How long is the government going to stay invested before they re-focus on hydrogen or an alternate platform? There are plenty of political reasons for the major OEMs to roll their collective eyes at Tesla while they flub around with hybrids and alternate fuel cars but I think most reasonably agree that cars with electric motors (in one form or another) are a stepping stone to something else. No doubt there will be advances in battery technology but all of that ignores the fact that the energy delivery infrastructure in the US is stuck in the same era as the Indian population who is defecating in the street. Using CT as an example, we are allegedly one of the US' "wealthiest" states in the nation but we can't pave our streets (we are routinely ranked as having the worst roads in the country), our towns are constantly cutting necessary educational programs, and our natural resource costs are among the highest in the country. I live in a heavily populated area along the coast, just outside of NYC. It's dense with resources and nestled between major highway routes. When a raccoon finds its way into a transformer box (happens a few times a year) my electricity is out for 4-6hrs or more. When Katrina hit, I lost power for 10 days. When the snow hit a few weeks later, it was out for another 7 days. Same with Sandy. When we get hit with routine wind storms, anywhere between 1-3 days depending on severity. Every summer, we suffer through weeks of brown outs because the existing (fossil fuel dependent) power stations cannot generate enough electricity to fuel the power demand with everyone's ACs running. What happens when you more than double that demand exponentially by hooking up everyone's cars to the infrastructure? And all of that assumes no population growth which generates its own increase in demand. The electrical delivery infrastructure in my area is reliant on 100yr old wooden poles and there is NO real discussion about upgrading the infrastructure. And, where in the Tesla literature do they talk about real world costs to homeowners (upgrading to 220, installing charging systems, increased electrical bills, etc) or even lost resale value from cars with worthless batteries. In 2015, Toyota sold more than 400K Camrys and Ford sold almost 800K trucks, many of which will be on the road for more than 10yrs when the batteries in those Teslas are reaching end of life. Hell, we're on a forum dedicated to cars built as far back as 1998 and a model that hasn't been in showrooms in 12 years. Maybe the market will change such that only leasing will make sense in the future. After all, why buy a car if it won't last much beyond the lease term? Sorry for the rant. I'll stop here but, suffice it to say, this is only the tip of the iceberg. -Eric

I'm just waiting for all the latest gen 911's which are all turbo charged to start exhibiting bad behaviours/failures on a track where you can't do anything more than a few hard laps without some consequences. I think then people might want to have at least one NA 911 in their stable(whether it be for track purposes or just the simplicity as well as the NA boxer characteristics). This could trickle down all the way to the 996 market for their sense of a more raw and connected ride while still having modern day comfort and relative reliability. Of course I could be totally off base here and this could be the greatest thing since sliced bread.