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High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

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YOUR RESEARCHHigh pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

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amp somehow causing a weird drone

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I thought it was the amp somehow causing a weird drone from the speakers.

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Check engine next time it's cold

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I'll have to start the car and check the engine next time it's cold.

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rear driver speaker and an amp issue at

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It's like a constant droning sound, which is why I thought it was the rear driver speaker and an amp issue at first.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

Check engine next time it's cold

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I'll have to start the car and check the engine next time it's cold.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

Lubricate bearings

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Some people have been successful in pulling the SAI pump out, removing the plastic housing and re-lubricating the bearings.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

Run perfectly

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It just started doing this recently with no other symptoms- the car seems to run perfectly.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds
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Check engine next time it's cold

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I'll have to start the car and check the engine next time it's cold.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

Lubricate bearings

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Some people have been successful in pulling the SAI pump out, removing the plastic housing and re-lubricating the bearings.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

Run perfectly

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It just started doing this recently with no other symptoms- the car seems to run perfectly.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

Run your cel will come

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If you unplug it so it doesn't run, your CEL will come on and the DME will throw a code.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds
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amp somehow causing a weird drone

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I thought it was the amp somehow causing a weird drone from the speakers.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds

rear driver speaker and an amp issue at

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It's like a constant droning sound, which is why I thought it was the rear driver speaker and an amp issue at first.

High pitched whine on cold start, lasts about 15 seconds
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Here's a link to the video. It just started doing this recently with no other symptoms- the car seems to run perfectly. Noise goes away after about 15 seconds. Any ideas? Car is a 2003 C4 with about 129k miles on it. You Tube

POST 2Original post

It could be yourr Secondary air pump. It is located in the left rear of the engine compartment. Unplug the powerwire (two conductor plug) going to it and then start the car. If the whine disappears that would be what you are hearing

POST 4Original post

Agree, secondary air injection pump (SAI). Sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Comes on with a cold start and very often runs twice or three times over after a cold start. Should sound more like a whooshing sound. But if the SAI pump bearings are going bad, then it starts to make a horrific whine. Open engine bay, start car, and go back and listen carefully on the left side of the engine bay. Some people have been successful in pulling the SAI pump out, removing the plastic housing and re-lubricating the bearings. Do a search.

POST 5Original post

That car with the SAI pump in the back is bad news. It is very hard to remove it with the engine in the car.

POST 6Original post

Wow, this was good timing, literally dealing with this noise now. I thought it was the amp somehow causing a weird drone from the speakers. It comes at cold start and then goes away about 15 seconds later. I hadn't had a chance to properly investigate, but this sounds dead on. It looks like I could literally just unplug it? Not sure I want to try and rebuild bearings, unless it's really an easy thing, and doesn't require me trying to source bearings from alibaba and then dropping them in the garage and losing half of them... Or just let it drone?

POST 7Original post

Let it drone unless it gets really noisy (bearing whine). If you unplug it so it doesn't run, your CEL will come on and the DME will throw a code.

POST 8Original post

If you unplug the SAI you will get a check engine light an error code.

POST 9Original post

Here is a thread on the SAI pump and repairs: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...epair-diy.html

POST 10Original post

Here is the location of the SAI pump on a 996.2 This picture is with the engine out of the car, looking from the gearbox toward the "front" of the engine. You can see where the SAI pump is, and guess how to remove it? Would be easier just to drop the engine first.

POST 11Original post

The black assembly on the bottom left is the SAI pump, below the blue coolant cap. It is external of the engine�.. -Eric

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 19817316

That is not the SAI Pump. The SAI Pump is easily accessible, located in the left rear of the engine compartment. It helps to remove the air cleaner snorkel in order to get better access.

POST 13Original post

Okay, so maybe my noise is not the SAI pump, " I would only do this repair if I heard the tell-tale screech/squeal on SAI start-up". No screeching. It's like a constant droning sound, which is why I thought it was the rear driver speaker and an amp issue at first. Lasts just 20 seconds on cold start. Reading the posts more now the SAI is on the passenger side , I thought it was on the drive side right next to the coolant tank. I'll have to start the car and check the engine next time it's cold. EDIT: Okay it is where I thought it was. ...

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