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YOUR RESEARCHAre parts prices going crazy or is FCP just raising prices?
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So I read on this forum that some people are sending used oil back to FCP Euro to get them replaced for free.
Are parts prices going crazy or is FCP just raising prices?
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Lots of other cars from the same era, or even newer, have had their parts discontinued by other carmakers with no aftermarket suppliers to fill the gap.
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LN Engineering also makes an upgraded hex key, but I don�t recall whether it was tested by Porschetech3.
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I $hit you not.....I never returned used oil to anywhere other then Autozone for recycling......
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So I read on this forum that some people are sending used oil back to FCP Euro to get them replaced for free.
Are parts prices going crazy or is FCP just raising prices?
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This is a first hearing about this....."sending used oil back".........
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Lots of other cars from the same era, or even newer, have had their parts discontinued by other carmakers with no aftermarket suppliers to fill the gap.
Are parts prices going crazy or is FCP just raising prices?
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I wasn't happy with the idler and tension pulleys I bought at FCP in early 2022. I went with a very expensive billet option, but I have to replace the FCP ones in order to get the credit. The three pulleys were $190.44 in 2022. Today they are $285.97 up 50% in 30 months. Anyone else seeing this? Anyone interested in new idler pulleys I don't need anymore for 2022 prices?
Yes but everyrhing is getting jacked. As inventory gets depleted and new stock comes in the price goes on.
Porsche ring and pinion was $2300 a year ago now is $4100. Its across the board.
Going into this in 2020, I could handle the known repair costs, but now...This has the risk of really bifurcating the market. The people without the means will drive these into the ground.
It�s not a risk, it�s reality.
996s have been run into the ground by people without the means or desire to maintain them for the last 15 years.
I hate to admit it but the guy who wrote the scathing article about 996s in Road and Track was kind of right.
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Bad examples will haunt the buy-here-pay-here lots from now until the end of time.�
The rising price of parts has the potential to exacerbate the problem
Yep. It's not the cost to buy a Porsche that expensive, it's the cost to keep it running after it's off warranty. Add in quite a few new owners looking to refresh parts on cars they just bought, coupled with limited supply of "classic" parts and we have a price party.
We�re very fortunate to still have parts available, despite their rising prices. Lots of other cars from the same era, or even newer, have had their parts discontinued by other carmakers with no aftermarket suppliers to fill the gap.
This is interesting. Which cars? Can't imagine Porsche, BMW, or the like will be impacted for several decades.
I've always wondered how they keep up with making OE parts for our cars. They probably use a lot of the same machinery in the factory and just switch up the molds, but they have get the materials from somewhere...and wouldn't they rather use said materials on the newer parts?
Just don't know when it'll all phase out.......to the point where you can't find a part unless you find a junked car with the part.
Automotive parts are mandated by US Federal Law to be made available for 10 years for any model....after that they can be dropped at the manufactures discretion..
The molds and stamping machines that make the bodies and other parts usually wear out after 7-10 years depending on how many of the total models are produced....So most manufactures instead of replacing them to build 10 year old stuff... replace them to build new models and why there is usually a significant change in style every 7-10 years..
Usually the soft parts/ interior parts are dropped after 10 years unless they have stock pilled a large quantity.....Hard parts are dropped if they are not selling well, and non-OEM parts makers will make parts if they can sell them...
IE...Bussiness that make parts they can't sell will not stay in business very long.....so the parts availability after 10 years depends on the consumer spending habits...
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where do they actually get these materials from? And are third party OEM companies buying old machines from OE manu plants and refurbishing them...?
Like Porschetech said it's much sooner than several decades. Depending on the component, how many are produced year to year, is demand driven.
Sure the machines may be the same (but also updated on capital investment for larger companies within a 10 year window), but everything else involved is different. Tooling, fixturing, assembly, quality inspection, etc.. It's not just simply changing a die or mold. Then other outlying factors that increase year to year like the cost of raw materials.
I've been in manufacturing from automotive, aerospace, firearms, medical equipment for my whole career, from being a CNC programmer, to CAD design/quoting, to corporate level structuring. All of the prices for end users are dictated by production volumes & demand, as they decrease, prices increase. This is seen at a greater percentage for less common things, like parts for an older 911 compared to a similar year Mustang.
Guess I'm getting into the tire or brake business....lol
Also see an opp for reupholstery/interior shops that will customize your interior or refurb it.
Pretty wild to think about though. I guess the future really is electric.....
The future is always just what's new at the time. Electric comes with it's own set of issues that have yet to be addressed.
De Jeeper also hit it on the head. Things get outsourced to foreign sources willing to make the parts (AKA: China & Mexico as the big two). This ends up with cheaper labor, cheaper materials, and cheaper quality assurance. We've moved entire plants from the US to Mexico, the end result was constant customer rejects from blatant out of tolerance components. Very happy to not be a part of that side of the business anymore.
I don't know for sure but a lot of the big companies also have manufacturing plants in China...I' ve noticed some parts labeled as "made in China" that closely resemble the OEM parts but not not as pronounced/quality.....I think a lot of the used/worn tooling ends up there....
Safe is subjective. There's a noticeable quality difference (not visual to the human eye, still look the same) between cheaper or "OEM" coolant expansion tanks & factory, quite a bit of discussion around it on here. Below is one thread for instance, guy bought two problem ones (not known until installed) from Pelican before paying the premium for the Porsche EDP.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-really-2.html
Someone will start a company that focuses on quality. Not quite OE but better than what�s out there in the oem realm.
id like to know what specifically makes a part OE. If it�s materials, focus on that and then just put an emphasis on quality assurance
Yeah. Try buying a shift box bushing for a Corrado, or a windshield for that matter. I had to buy 20 windshields and become a vehicle parts importer with the NHTSA to get one.
To add onto my previous post: I�ve read reports of broken OE oil pump drive hex keys, and remember reading about Porschetech3�s experiments with a torque wrench. He made his own hex key out of an Allen key and found that it was stronger than the OE. LN Engineering also makes an upgraded hex key, but I don�t recall whether it was tested by Porschetech3. I assume it would be stronger than the OE too, but that is mainly because I have faith in LN�s work.
I remember installing a brand new Porsche oil pressure sender and it failed right out of the box; it couldn�t register anything over 4 bar of pressure.
OE can be hit-or-miss sometimes. These sorts of things aren�t limited to Porsche. BMW and their plastic valve covers compelled the enthusiast aftermarket to produce metal valve covers because they cracked so often.
Generally, the OE part is revered because we imagine that the engineers designed it to a standard. And that�s usually true. I believe the choice of materials, methods, and quality control is held to a higher standard for those parts, because the engineers need them to endure through the warranty period.
Aftermarket companies that produce replacement parts don�t have such an extended warranty period to deal with, so I guess that it invites a bit less effort in part production. Though they may give their own parts a warranty period, it seems rather short - like a single year or something.
The 996 community is blessed with lots of aftermarket vendors, and not only your typical replacement part vendors. While searching for parts for my suspension upgrade, I came across vendors like Tarett, Elephant Racing, RSS, Demonspeed, etc.
Coupled with the fact that Porsche themselves are still supporting this car, it means that the 996 is bound to live a long and excellent life.
The brands I typically see early discontinuation of parts are: Honda, Ford, Nissan, and Hyundai. There are probably some others I�m forgetting, but these are brands that I often run into issue with.
When my Honda was 15 years old, I was able to find a front shock mount for it. When it was 20, there was none to be found. There aren�t any aftermarket vendors who make a replacement part, so it�s very frustrating.
On the other hand, I priced out a water pump for a 30 year old Mercedes and found out that the dealership still offers these parts - and at a cheaper price than an aftermarket replacement! It�s mind-boggling how drastic things can be across different brands.
Porsche, BMW, and Mercedes seem to put forth an effort in continuing parts production for their old cars. My opinion is that they recognize the importance of their classic cars and want to celebrate it by supporting the existence of those cars.
So I read on this forum that some people are sending used oil back to FCP Euro to get them replaced for free. It's not free. Prices are higher for everything else.
Me either..........just too much hassle for me and I know nothing in this world is "free"......If they want me to buy oil from them just sell me my Brand/weight at a good price...I don't want to be "married" to them on oil....
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