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Accident car was sideswoiped door replace front fender repaired painted.

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Repair estimate yet

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Have not got the repair estimate yet, but guessing 5 to $6,000.

Flood car or accident car?
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I run a car ministry where we do free car repairs for low income individuals.

Flood car or accident car?

of flood cars and it might be harder

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People are very suspect of flood cars and it might be harder to sell later.

Flood car or accident car?

Repair estimate yet

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Have not got the repair estimate yet, but guessing 5 to $6,000.

Flood car or accident car?

Replace front fender

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Accident car was sideswoiped door replace front fender repaired painted.

Flood car or accident car?
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Repair estimate yet

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Have not got the repair estimate yet, but guessing 5 to $6,000.

Flood car or accident car?

Repair painted

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Accident car was sideswoiped door replace front fender repaired painted.

Flood car or accident car?

Replace front fender

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Accident car was sideswoiped door replace front fender repaired painted.

Flood car or accident car?

Run across a great deal

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I would consider a PDK or tiptronic in a turbo 911 if I ran across a great deal.

Flood car or accident car?

Run better than ever a week ago

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Car was running better than ever a week ago.

Flood car or accident car?

Run car ministry where we do free car repairs

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I run a car ministry where we do free car repairs for low income individuals.

Flood car or accident car?

Test drive the damage one

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Im going to test drive the damage one today.

Flood car or accident car?

Use insurance money

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I was wondering if it would be better to sell the car as is to someone who can do body work and use the insurance money to buy another car.

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of flood cars and it might be harder

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People are very suspect of flood cars and it might be harder to sell later.

Flood car or accident car?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

2 cars both with complete repair. Flood car has no visible problems runs great pulled carpets and see no damage. States car had water up to door sills and water seeped in. Vacuumed out and all carpets removed and dried. No evidence of mold all electronics work fine. Accident car was sideswoiped door replace front fender repaired painted. No frame damage no airbags went off. WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE? same year almost exact same options. What if 1 was a tip over 6 speed? oh BTW Turbo's My Turbo fever has me considering one but the prices on slavage titled cars is tempting!

POST 2Original post

What are you going to use it for? Is this going to be your track car? or a daily driver? Unless it is a forever car and you might sell it some day, I would take an accident car over a flood car. People are very suspect of flood cars and it might be harder to sell later. Just my opinion. And I personally wouldn't take a tip over a 6 speed...ever. D>

POST 3Original post

"Water up to the door sills" is the biggest lie that's told with flood cars. Look up under the dash. Was the floodwater fresh water or salt water? If the accident damaged car truly doesn't have frame damage, I would go with that one. A six speed car will always carry a premium over a tip.

POST 4Original post

I would prefer 6 speed over tip for sure. But I'd go with wrecked twice over one flood! I run a car ministry where we do free car repairs for low income individuals. There are many old flood vehicles around here that have electrical issues. Some were just fine for a while after the first repairs were completed and now are having multiple hard to diagnose issues. Many of these cars are Harvey flood vehicles that the owners didn't have full (any?) insurance coverage. They rely on their car to get to and from work. They can't afford to fix them, and don't have the ability to troubleshoot electrical issues. Trying to fix corrosion inside of wiring harnesses and distribution points is a nightmare. Lots of sensors failing too. Trust me, if you can afford it, avoid flood vehicles for a daily driver! Sure, you might luck out...or you might be setting yourself up for lots of frustration. Oh, and the water up to the door sill...I heard that about several Houston flood cars that I worked on right after Harvey. Some of them still had remnants of the water line on the top of the hood of the car.(and higher)

POST 5Original post

Water in cars are never a good thing! I'd take the accident damaged tip over a flooded manual.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

AWESOME! I was thinking the same thing about the flood stuff. It will be my daily driver. I might consider track in the future but just Autocross 2-4 times a year for now. Im going to test drive the damage one today. Same thing about the stick I cant imagine NOT having a 911 with a stick but i heard so many great things about the Auto in a Turbo and how you cant even shift as quick as it can. but I'm sure I would miss the stick!

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my 2 cents: PASS on both. Personally, I would keep looking for one with no "stories"

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Very cool. Well done, sir!

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Definitely a PDK can shift faster than you can. I would consider a PDK or tiptronic in a turbo 911 if I ran across a great deal. But I would have to keep my manual Carrera too. I considered both auto and manual when I was looking, but in the end gave up my automatic BMW 135i with a LOT more HP for my 996 with the manual transmission. The slower 996 was so much more fun that I sold my 135i 8 months later because I never wanted to drive it, even with almost twice the HP. Selling the 135i meant I could spend the money on the 996. The 996 is even more fun to drive now with the new coilovers.

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My 03 996 w/tip is fantastic! I can manually blip through the speeds incredibly quick, and I can sit in stop and go traffic and not kill my knee! And when I'm lazy I put it in D and let it do the work... When in D at any moment you can downshift manually and it automatically stays in manual mode for about 5 seconds after you stop shifting, or stop hauling ***! Win, Win! Just wish it had one more gear...but the book says it's only 3 mph slower in top end.

POST 11Original post

Accident car over flood car. The flood story is always minimized, never true. Manual over Tip every single day.

POST 12Original post

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Of course it is! It's a 911!! In my book it would be: 1) Porsche with Manual 2) Porsche with PDK 3) Porsche with Tiptronic . . . 4) Any other car made

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Lol. Hopefully i get in that group soon. Now still in an Evoque.

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Just make sure you make it into the top 3.

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Yea at number 4 still once winter is over ill be in one

POST 16Original post

Follow up advice question. Just got sideswiped as well. I was wondering if it would be better to sell the car as is to someone who can do body work and use the insurance money to buy another car. The car has 128,000 miles on it and runs beautifully. Opinions?

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What do you figure it would be worth damaged?

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You gotta be kidding me. 996s are going to drop like flies

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What year and which transmission?

POST 22Original post

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What about the rest of the car? Engine, trans, clutch, brakes, susp, int, glass all good? Do you like the car? Want to keep it? Will it be a total by ins or repaired? Way too many variables to give an opinion on this one.

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POST 24Original post

2002 C2 stick. Everything works, likely because I have replaced it. IMS at 96,000, new clutch, new A/C compressor, new mounts, new fuel sender and pump, new window regulators, brakes, power steering, etc. etc. First Porsche that I have owned that does not leak oil on my garage floor. Insurance pays for all but $1,000. Have not got the repair estimate yet, but guessing 5 to $6,000. Car was running better than ever a week ago.

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