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This shop is probably THE place to go for a PPI in the area, but they possibly wouldn't be "neutral" with the car since they've serviced it for so long and know the owner so well.

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Check any other top shop as a preference

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If not, then this shop should be honest and independent, but again, I would check for any other top shop as a preference.

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Check any other top shop as a preference

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If not, then this shop should be honest and independent, but again, I would check for any other top shop as a preference.

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I was coming from out of state and relied on the forums for recommended shops.

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If not, then this shop should be honest and independent, but again, I would check for any other top shop as a preference.

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I was coming from out of state and relied on the forums for recommended shops.

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Suspected cause · Original poster

This shop is probably THE place to go for a PPI in the area, but they possibly wouldn't be "neutral" with the car since they've serviced it for so long and know the owner so well.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Asking for a buddy: He's looking at a car to purchase in WI and it has been supremely cared for by the owner and a well-known Indy shop (Kelly Moss Motorsports). This shop is probably THE place to go for a PPI in the area, but they possibly wouldn't be "neutral" with the car since they've serviced it for so long and know the owner so well. So does my friend attempt to find another place to do the PPI in order to get a neutral opinion on the car? Or go ahead and take the car to the highly regarded Indy because they know the car inside-out and have such a great reputation in that area? Thanks all.

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There isn�t any other top shop in the area? If not, then this shop should be honest and independent, but again, I would check for any other top shop as a preference. Besides, can�t you get both opinions? I mean if you call the shop that serviced the car, they might tell you all they know for free. Then cross/add what the 2nd shop tells you. Chances are not everything will line up 100% by the way (nobody will ever catch everything).

POST 3Original post

Kelly moss has a great rep. Imo they're not going to tarnish it on a ppi.

POST 4Original post

You just admitted the car has been meticulously cared for by the PO and the best shop in their area. Buy the car and stop worrying so much.

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If it were me, I'd call the shop and ask them if they know what the car might need in the next few thousand miles, and if it sounds good, I'd go ahead and buy it. Normally I don't want a car unless I look it over myself. Including checking it with my Durametric/Bavarian Technics/Snap-on scanner. But if the shop has a great reputation and has regularly serviced a car, I'd just go by what they say. No quality shop is going to withhold information. Also technicians normally do an inspection so they can up-sell any needed work. They should have these recommendations recorded. If he really wants a PPI, then pay the shop that knows the car...and have them drop the pan.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks everyone. Some great points made here.

POST 8Original post

FWIW when I bought my 928 years almost 10 years ago I had the shop that maintained the car do the PPI. It was a very reputable and well known Porsche independent shop in Raleigh NC. I was coming from out of state and relied on the forums for recommended shops. I was also buying from a good owner that had all his service documentation and it was a well cared for car. Part of me saw the potential conflict of interest but I also realized that first, if the shop correctly identifies things wrong with the car its likely you may have them fix any or all of them prior to purchase to get the car road worthy for the ride home. Secondly, we live in a digital age. If you bought the car and they missed things they shouldn't they can expect it would be plastered all over the internet and their reputation would take a hit. So those things gave me some confidence that it was in their interest to just be honest with the assessment and let the chips fall out however they will. Good luck with your friend's search.

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I would be ok with it based on the known information given. Best of luck!

POST 10Original post

I know of Kelly Moss. I wouldn't worry one little bit.

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