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Install custom switch in the dash

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I did eventually enable the On-board computer on my 1999 996, and installed a custom switch in the dash to control it.

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Use footwell

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I used the footwell for lidar jammers and the targa for my garage door opener when I had a 996.

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Use footwell light switch

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I know many people use the footwell light switch to control the OBC.

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Used a footwell light switch for toggling through the function and resetting the counters.

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Use pse button screen

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Next button is to scroll thru the OBC menus and reset it (I used the PSE button screen with a different base - the sunroof switch)

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Use switch type b

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I'm using Switch Type B with two relays.

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Install custom switch in the dash

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I did eventually enable the On-board computer on my 1999 996, and installed a custom switch in the dash to control it.

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Replace mode once you have it

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The location is not quite as convenient as higher on the dash, but I think you might be surprised how little you change the mode once you have it set to the display you like most.

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Replace modes of the obc

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The idea is to change the modes of the OBC and to have the diode on the switch light up when the spoiler is depoyed ('cause I want to know!).

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Reset counters

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Used a footwell light switch for toggling through the function and resetting the counters.

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Set '

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I think you also use 'set' to

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I think you also use 'set' to

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Use defroster switch and two small relays

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It uses a defroster switch and two small relays.

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Use footwell

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I used the footwell for lidar jammers and the targa for my garage door opener when I had a 996.

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Use footwell light switch

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I know many people use the footwell light switch to control the OBC.

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Used a footwell light switch for toggling through the function and resetting the counters.

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Use masking tape and white spray paint

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I added the "up arrow" as a simple icon using masking tape and white spray paint.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Somehow, I had never heard of the On Board Computer (OBC) hack. I didn't know that my '99 had the computer built in. Furthermore, I didn't know that my Durametric could turn it on. I just needed Version 6 of the Durametric software. In case anyone is in the dark (like I was), ALL 996's from '99-2001 came with the OBC built into the dash, but it was an option to have it enabled, and to have the 4th stalk to control it. I believe it became a standard feature in later models. I enabled the OBC yesterday with my Durametric. Took about 5 minutes, mostly to boot up my computer. Dealers can also enable this feature. Rather than add the 4th stalk (which costs about $325) I'm just going to add a dash button to cycle through and select the various optons. I have two questions for anyone who has done this: 1. If you are not installing the 4th stalk, do you need to remove the steering wheel to remove the instrument panel and get at the connector there? The DIY is unclear on this. 2. I know many people use the footwell light switch to control the OBC. Has anyone removed the graphics from a standard switch (such as the Targa switch) and replaced them with custom graphics? Footwell light switch: Targa Switch: Custom Switch???? I'm planning to follow the DIYs at Renntech HERE and HERE and at Pelican . There have also been some threads on Rennlist , but somehow I missed them. There is also a PDF version of a DIY , in case anyone wants more info.

POST 2Original post

Thanks for the info. This is an Easter egg I did not know about.

POST 3Original post

I don't know about the OBDII stuff but I do know about those switches. They are all momentary contact switches. So, they might work great for cycling through a list or selecting an item but you will need a relay to turn anything off or on. I used the footwell for lidar jammers and the targa for my garage door opener when I had a 996.

POST 4Original post

Frisbee, are you talking about accessing OBD codes via the dash or HVAC or enabling stuff like Avg MPG/DTE etc ? I have a 2003 and would love to access OBD info on the fly

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Nope, not OBD. OBC=on board computer. In the '99 OBC you can access outside temperature, speed gong alarm, average MPG, average speed, and range remaining on fuel. OBD is on-board diagnostics, for emissions and maintenance.

POST 6Original post

Subscribed! Very interested in this. ( Going to do spoiler switch relocate and garage door switch soon. Added this one to a future project. Keep us updated with progress and photos. Thanks

POST 7Original post

[double post-ignore. Forum server is doing some weird things!]

POST 9Original post

Guys, just to clarify for some, this is only for '99-00 owners where OBC feature didn't come out of the box like '01+ models did. If you have a '01+, you already have that functionality. However, I still find it interesting that this was hidden on the '99-'00.

POST 10Original post

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My kind of mod! Though I already have the computer on my '04, so no direct need... I don't know about creative, but I wanted some extra buttons for hidden garage door openers and didn't like the graphics or the cost of using repurposed Porsche OEM dash buttons. I put some simple black pushbutton switches on the lower batwing between the heated seat switches. Easy to access & drill, and a replacement OEM batwing is only about $10 if I ever want to go back to stock... You could even use a small momentary double throw toggle instead of a pushbutton to mimic the operation of the stalk. The location is not quite as convenient as higher on the dash, but I think you might be surprised how little you change the mode once you have it set to the display you like most.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Yes, momentary switches are all you need to interact with the on-board-computer. You need 2 or 4 contacts, depending on which functions you want to access. The 4 functions are up, down, set, and reset. Up and down are redundant, since you can just continue up until you circle to your choice. Set is only needed for the speed gong, which I wont use . So, I can get away with one two-contact momentary switch. Now, who has done something creative with a button so that it looks like it would control the OBC?

POST 12Original post

Does anyone know if the Seat Heater switches are momentary? I'm too lazy to take mine out and check. Been meaning to wire up my garage door opener to a factory switch but once again too lazy and down on the priority list.

POST 13Original post

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I think you also use 'set' to set the default mode you want displayed.

POST 14Original post

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Pretty sure it is a two-way momentary. Push it on one side, it momentarily connects pins 1-4, the other pins 2-4, no press, both circuits open.

POST 15Original post

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If it is 2 way, even better as I can assign one of the sides to an x10 controller to control the driveway lights or one of the other lights in my backyard. Thanks.

POST 16Original post

I did this mod several years ago. Used a footwell light switch for toggling through the function and resetting the counters. I also modified the switch so that the light on it goes on when the rear spoiler raises. I have had a four stalk switch sitting in storage for several years, maybe this summer I will get around to installing it.

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Doug, I give you procrastinator of the decade award for this post. I've read ALL the threads on the OBC hack to try and understand it, and I noticed a theme... In 2011 : In 2009 : AND in 2006 ! Enjoy your award! P.S. Do you want to sell me your parts?

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I think I read that the seat heater switch is a different type. Here's one description I found: Link I used the Targa switch, which kind of looks like a garage.

POST 19Original post

Cool for you guys....I have the 4 stalk but thought it was common.

POST 20Original post

Who, me a procrastinator??? Ok now I am going to have to put it in

POST 22 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Hey Doug, I'm hoping to add my On-board-computer control button(s) this weekend. Your post above intrigues me. How did you wire the footwell switch so that the LED indicator light goes on when the rear spoiler raises? Is there a 12VDC signal or closed contact signal somewhere that indicates the spoiler is up? Is there a DIY somewhere? Thanks.

POST 24Original post

frisbee, While you are in there......wouldn't you want to add the "spoiler is going up or down indicator mod?" http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPOILER-CONT...-/261201348981 I will be doing the OBC, garage door opener and the spoiler mods all at once.....have all the parts, but trying to find the time...... regards

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Funny you should mention that. I ordered a custom blank button for my OBC hack from Stefan, the ebay seller of the "spoiler indicator" mod. I'm not sure if I need/want the spoiler indicator. I was hoping to find a DIY to the spoiler indicator hack, but the old links to it are all broken. Anyone know where to find information on doing the wiring yourself? (versus buying the electronics). I like the fun of the DIY. Haven't received my new switch yet, but expect it soon. I'll post back once it's done in a few weeks.

POST 26Original post

Nice.....BTW, when I purchased the spoiler indicator....I received 2 of them.....I have the instructions on where to hook up for the indicator (spoiler going up/down).......I expect to do all mods at once, when I find time to do it....I do not wanna have to remove the dash twice....for extra space I even bought the "bat wing" in case I need more buttons.....LOL

POST 27Original post

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OBC came standard on 2nd generation 996s (2002 on). I did the OBC with stalk on my car back in 2002. It's about a 3-hour job and involves taking apart the top of the instrument panel and steering wheel. Not for the faint of heart.

POST 28Original post

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Are you saying you have an '01 that didn't come with the stalk? I'm confused at what you're trying to say.

POST 29Original post

I have an '01 996 and it has the stalk... but it is possible that the previous owner installed it. For the record it's an '01 turbo

POST 30Original post

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1999 and 2000 models had a standalone option for the OBC for around $300. In 2001, they made OBC available only as part of a $2000 package. I didn't order my car with that package, so I retrofitted the OBC with the stalk. On 2nd generation models, starting in 2002, the instrument panel was slightly reconfigured and they all came with the OBC and stalk. If you have a 1999-2001 model and all you want is outside temp reading, you can just have it activated using the OBDII tool.

POST 31 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Just a follow up to this thread. I did eventually enable the On-board computer on my 1999 996, and installed a custom switch in the dash to control it. I bought a blank switch from "Stefanhydraulic", an ebay vendor. It's not a standard part, but Stefan made it for me on request. I added the "up arrow" as a simple icon using masking tape and white spray paint. Now it works great! Here is my dash with the OBC display enabled:

POST 32Original post

Pics are missing !!.... Correction, Pics now show !! Good work, hopefully I will be able to do mine this weekend....

POST 33 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Not sure what happened to the pic links. Should be corrected above.

POST 34Original post

After much procrastinating (had parts for months), I completed mine. All the button positions are pretty much full....originally I had the 3 blanks on the left and the original batwing was flat (no button positions)... From top to bottom: Spoiler indicator light (flashes when going up or down, up is a steady red, down is off) Next button is to lower or raise the spoiler manually Next button is to scroll thru the OBC menus and reset it (I used the PSE button screen with a different base - the sunroof switch) Lowest button (lower console) is the garage opener

POST 35Original post

Those extra buttons make it look like a "fully" optioned car.

POST 36Original post

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IF I ever sell it, I may make that claim......LOL........ .........

POST 37Original post

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. Nicely executed! 2003 Carrera 4S Speed Yellow / 1955 356 Continental 1500 Rust Red

POST 38Original post

Reviving a bit of an old thread here.... I'm about to do the OBC hack using a switch rather than a stalk. I would like the switch to light up at night. To do this, I think I need a line that goes Negative (is grounded) when the night lights come on. Does anyone know where I can grab such a line? TIA

POST 39Original post

How stupid for this NOT to be enabled. Not sure what Porsche's rational was.

POST 41Original post

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If you use switch Type A, then the LED circuit is separate from the switch circuit, meaning that you can power the LEDs normally. Edit: I guess I already answered this once...sorry. What happened with the Type A?

POST 43Original post

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extra money for a "cool" gadget in 1999. If you don't know what it is about it's always about money fyi.

POST 44Original post

For anyone that is interested. Here is a pic of the wiring harness I built. It uses a defroster switch and two small relays. The idea is to change the modes of the OBC and to have the diode on the switch light up when the spoiler is depoyed ('cause I want to know!). It also illuminates (on all the time). The yellow wires are labelled with the pin numbers they connect to in the cluster. Wish me luck on the install! I tested out the harness with a meter and a power source and it all seems to work as expected.

POST 45Original post

I make a custom harness with the correct pins for the factory instrument connector.Hand crimped and soldered and wrapped to look like OEM factory. I have two versions , one for a stalk if you go that route and the other to use a simple switch (window or any other switch) $45 shipped for the stalk version , $30 for the Dash Switch version. The stalk version has the correct OEM plug for the stalk...when you are done it will look factory to a Porsche dealer Thanks Dwight [email removed]

POST 46 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Still wondering if Doug (Dharn55) has installed his 4th stalk...

POST 47Original post

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I put mine in 2 years ago but never got around to wiring it . Something else seems to come up that needs more attention. I was planning on doing this in the spring but had 3 months of convertible top hassles.

POST 48Original post

I just bought a 99 996 Cab. I would like to add the OBC hack to my car. Does anyone have the instructions or a good active link?

POST 49Original post

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...m-buttons.html http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...ox_obd_mod.htm http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...retro-install/ http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...996/?hl=Yoseif http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...s-or-question/ http://forums.pelicanparts.com/boxst...-question.html http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...BC_upgrade.htm

POST 50Original post

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I purchased one of his harnesses, for a coule bucks more than you can build one for yourself, it's well worth the price paid, top notch quality

POST 51Original post

I make these by hand in my shop, one dealer actually bought one and then order 4 more to install in cars. He asked me where I got the Porsche wiring harnesses....I try to make them as close to OEM as possible Dwight

POST 52Original post

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Anyone who orders one from you will see your work speaks for itself. It looks every bit of factory, thx again. I should say I am more than capable of making one myself, however I lack the time to head to various dealers to assemble the parts, it was a no brainer to order from you, and I'm glad I did.

POST 53Original post

Dwight, are you still making these? I want to do the dash switch hack. OBC is turned on already. Thanks Todd 99 3.4-->3.6 coupe

POST 54Original post

Can the Durametric activate any other features on the 996 like DRL, etc?

POST 55Original post

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There are limited features that can be turned on (that the car has) and also that Durametric can code. According to this DLR cannot be activated by OBC it needs a relay: https://www.renntech.org/forums/topi...ts-on-us-spec/ Think I mentioned this to you in a previous thread.

POST 56Original post

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You did and I wanted to advance the question in the OBC thread. TYVM! /exthree

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