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YOUR RESEARCHNever thought I'd own a 996...

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Install h&r lowering springs, bilstein b8 struts/shocks, lowered/aligned

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Installed H&R lowering springs, Bilstein B8 struts/shocks, lowered/aligned with new set of Bridgestone Tires a few weeks ago.

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Check with dealer first

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He smiles and tells me he will check with dealer first on value.

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Install on friday

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Had H&R lowering springs and Bilstein B8's installed on Friday.

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Install these

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Installed these today.

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Replace headlights

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I guess being a purist I was bummed when they dropped the air-cooled 911 and changed the headlights to those designed on the 996.

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Replace l&n single row

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So far, I've had the IMS bearing replaced, L&N single row.

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Check with dealer first

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He smiles and tells me he will check with dealer first on value.

Never thought I'd own a 996...

Install h&r lowering springs, bilstein b8 struts/shocks, lowered/aligned

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Installed H&R lowering springs, Bilstein B8 struts/shocks, lowered/aligned with new set of Bridgestone Tires a few weeks ago.

Never thought I'd own a 996...

Install on friday

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Had H&R lowering springs and Bilstein B8's installed on Friday.

Never thought I'd own a 996...

Install these

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Installed these today.

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Replace headlights

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I guess being a purist I was bummed when they dropped the air-cooled 911 and changed the headlights to those designed on the 996.

Never thought I'd own a 996...

Replace l&n single row

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So far, I've had the IMS bearing replaced, L&N single row.

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Replace over time

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It's definitely interesting how the general opinion surrounding the 996 is changing over time.

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Test drive, thinking damn...i think i like this car

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I go for a quick test drive, thinking damn...I think I like this car.

Never thought I'd own a 996...

Test driven (8) c4's in the last month

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My friend has test driven (8) C4's in the last month, but unfortunately he isn't willing to go that high in price for an N/A 996....

Never thought I'd own a 996...

Test fit, you're more than welcome

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If you want to meet up one day and do a test fit, you're more than welcome to.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Never say never, isn't that what they say? I've owned some great 911's over the years, including the ones currently in the garage. Been around these cars for the last 40 years or so, know the model generations pretty well, and just never cared for 996. I guess being a purist I was bummed when they dropped the air-cooled 911 and changed the headlights to those designed on the 996. That has clearly changed in my mind over the years, as I come to appreciate the car for what it is and the water cooled 911 models. I almost bought a 996 TT a few years back but acquired a very nice 964 coupe instead. After 3 years with the 964 (one of the best 911's Ive owned) I was lucky enough to acquire a really nice 997.1 GT3 At this point I figured enough was enough, I have everything I could want. Never say never, right? Ran into an old friend last Fall who was telling me he might sell his 996. He says, "I never drive it, wife doesn't care for it, I need something I can use everyday, like the new Cayenne". My friend is a prominent Doctor in town who bought a 996 C4S new for his 50th birthday back in July 2003...at my suggestion as he "always wanted a Porsche". Pretty much every option you could add for a C4S at the time, including full leather and sport exhaust, with a msrp of $93500. A month ago my Doctor friend emails me photos of the new Cayenne Turbo he wants to buy, says he is going to trade the C4S in etc. I come by his house, look it over....for the first time in 10 years or so. Car is mint, pristine condition. Just needs a good detail to make it look showroom and a few mods. I go for a quick test drive, thinking damn...I think I like this car. Now rationale comes into play, I don't want another silver car, in fact I hate silver! Being Polar silver, I think, well it's a bluish silver. I don't need another Porsche! Well that's a given,...however this one only has 12,000 miles and its a one owner, garaged right down the street with all the records etc.. Ok, cleared that hurdle. Now I'm thinking my friend will want a mint for it. I tell him the range I think it's worth. He smiles and tells me he will check with dealer first on value. OK. Week goes by, dealer low ***** him a range 5000 lower than mine. The Doctor and I make a deal and I now own a 996 C4S, full circle complete! So far, I've had the IMS bearing replaced, L&N single row. Old bearing looked fine, spun free, with no metallic particles in oil filter. Better safe than sorry. For a baseline during the IMS replacement, I also had a new clutch T/O bearing installed, flushed coolant, Redline gear oil trans/diff, new AOS, spark plugs, air filter, bled clutch and brake sys, Joe Gibbs DT-401 5w-40 oil. Ready to drive ! Car is fantastic, solid, planted and feels almost new. Love the leather couch feel to the full supple leather....a true luxo-cruiser! The Doctor's car Driven it more in a month than it averaged it's entire life. Next up is lowering the car, installing new wheels/tires. Need to lose the stock ride height. I think the Turbo twists are a uninspiring wheel, especially on a silver car. I've got a custom refinished wheel coming that hopefully will make the car pop a bit. Bumper plugged for a wiper delete option, about the easiest mod there is on these cars. Waiting on new wheels and tires. Yes I washed the car just prior to this so the rotors have that fresh washed surface rust look. Here are a few photos thus far...

POST 2Original post

Well done. And welcome to 996-Land. I suspect you'll drive this one more than your other 2 and find some serious enjoyment along the way. Motor on!

POST 3Original post

Nice car - congratulations! And the best part is now you've finally gotten away from those ugly round Volkswagen Beetle headlights.

POST 5Original post

Gorgeous. I love the rear wiper option, wish more cars had it, but I understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's definitely interesting how the general opinion surrounding the 996 is changing over time. Glad to see it getting the appreciation it deserves.

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nice find, really nice car congratulations I gotta find a better neighborhood

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Excellent! I went to the local Porsche GTG last Saturday, and I have to say, I really like the look of the 996.2 headlights. The 997's really don't do anything extra for me....but that's probably just because I've been on here for 1.5 years. Now the yellow GT2 that was there.....that's a car I would like to own!

POST 8Original post

Beautiful. Hard to imagine having a car like that and driving it less than 1k a year.

POST 9Original post

God bless the ROWGs who happily take care of the depreciation to make these cars affordable for the rest of us.

POST 11Original post

Congrats! Looks like your C4S tail lights haven't developed the all so common vertical stress cracks yet.

POST 12Original post

Congrats on the new car. Many happy miles of motoring

POST 13Original post

What a creampuff, welcome to the fold! Great intro, thanks for the pics.

POST 15Original post

Very nice! Welcome to the 996. It will grow on you. Any plans for those hideous Turbo twists?

POST 16Original post

Looks great and congrats. Enjoy it in good health.

POST 18Original post

Nothing better than buying someone else's well cared-for 996, at the 'yuuuge' discount they now display. Like buying money at .50 on the dollar. Particularly the 996TT or C4S. Welcome aboard.

POST 19Original post

Congrats. It's a beautiful car. Turbo twists look night and day different with a black powder coat. May not be your style though.

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I actually prefer the 996.1 headlights to the 996.2... The "2's" look "droopy eyed" to me... I never did get the "fried egg" nickname for the original lights - especially if you don't have the orange directional - (don't fried eggs have the yellow in the middle?) - and the fact that they were borrowed from the GT1 race car is kind of cool. I think the fact that they were shared with the Boxter was the true killer for the Porsche Cognoscenti...To each his own...

POST 22Original post

Great car! Hey is one of the photos of it taken in Cripple Creek?

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Yeah, if those are widebody twists, hell, I'd do you a favor and dispose of them for you for free. Heck, I might even pay the cost of shipping them from Colorado to KC.

POST 24 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

What sizes are widebody Turbo twists?

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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No, the photo with the building behind it was in Silverton, CO Southern Colorado.

POST 26Original post

Hey, KC get in line! The twists on my 2005 996 C4S are 18x8 ET50 and 18x11 ET45. If you are selling let's talk.

POST 27Original post

I recall reading your post on the GT3 forum when you picked up the 3.1. I cant remember a time where I saw a post of someone with a GT3 buying a non 3 996 but its definitely great to see. Congrats on the polar silver 4S, they are great cars as well.

POST 28Original post

Hope to see you at some Cars and Coffee's this summer! I am in CO as well...

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Sent you a PM.

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Cool! Yeah it's not the normal progression, like I said the car was too nice to pass up. I have seriously considered a 996 GT3, but they keep going up in price and at this point another GT3 seems like overkill. Enjoying the C4S..

POST 31 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Installed these today. GT3 replica wheels from Wheel Dynamics. 18x 8.50 18x 10 and 17mm spacers for the rear. I really like the look of the 19 Sport classic Fuchs, but didn't want to go with 19's. So I went budget with a Fuchs styling finish. Satin center, polished lip/barrels. Not the best photos as it was a quick swap and back to work today. Still trying to decide if I like the look... I will say the service and attention to detail from Eli Sesma of Wheel Dynamics was fantastic, and the wheels came out great!

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We thank you for your trust and support! Amazing look! So much better on the vehicle over the look just in the photo-booth... Once again an amazing transformation! Team Wheel Dynamics

POST 34Original post

I loved the polished lip on those. Awesome choice for that car.

POST 35Original post

What is the offset on those wheels to put 17mm spacers. Just wondering

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18x8.5 (et. 52) Rear 18x10 (et. 54)

POST 37 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Put the stock rims/tires back on this weekend and did a little recon up the mountain passes. Fortunate to have some amazing mountain roads, with two alpine passes about 30 miles north of my home. Yesterday was better than usual, with zero traffic and the road all to myself. The car got a very good workout and I a new appreciation for C4S Molas Pass elev. 10,950

POST 39Original post

Silverton.....so did you take the car there via Ooray (sp?) along that crazy highway that makes one's butt tighten up when on a bike??

POST 41 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Had H&R lowering springs and Bilstein B8's installed on Friday. Huge improvement in looks and ride height! Overall the suspension feels tight and a bit stiffer but not harsh at all. Very worthwhile upgrade for $2000 parts/labor. Ride height came out much better than I expected, car looks the part now 😎

POST 42Original post

No kidding, those leather seats are brand new, incredible for a 13 year old car. Glad you snatched it before the dealer, they would sell that car right away with that kind of mileage and options... Enjoy it to the max! Cheers,

POST 43Original post

Curious... why did you put the stock turbo twist wheels back on the car? Second thoughts?

POST 44 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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The GT3 replica wheels are great, I just feel they don't work overall with the car. Keeping it stock. You should buy them, make you a great deal..😎

POST 45Original post

Well, if I hadn't just bought some Carrera II replicas, I'd probably take you up on the offer, but thank you! I was just curious why you had gone through the trouble of having them customized (i.e. painted black) and put tires on them only to go back to the original OEM twists that came with the car. I'm a stock kind of guy too, but I would consider the silver GT3 replicas since they're very close to the OEM. The rear offset is a little different, but should be close enough to work for the narrow bodies. Hope you enjoy the C4S, it's a very sharp car!

POST 46Original post

The pictures on top of the mountains with the snowcaps in the background definitely make me think you made the right choice putting the original wheels back on. So clean!

POST 47Original post

Congrats on the car! How have you been liking it so far? I love the way the turbo twists look on Porsches. Just my opinion. Have you warmed up to them yet? Maybe a nice new color would sway your judgment...

POST 48Original post

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what color is that? gunmetal?

POST 49Original post

Platinum satin. New 991 wheel color. Had them done at Porsche Monmouth

POST 50Original post

hmmmmm. Wonder how that will look on my Artic Silver C4S. Oh, OP, welcome to the club btw.

POST 51Original post

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If you want to meet up one day and do a test fit, you're more than welcome to.

POST 52Original post

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Yeah I don't understand the hate on the twists, I think they look just right.

POST 53Original post

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Will pick you up on that offer.

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Sounds cool man. Pm me whenever and we'll work it all out. You're not too far away from me I think.

POST 56 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Car is for sale... I unexpectedly came across a car I cannot pass up to buy. Sadly this perfect 996 C4S must go. I'll have an ad up soon. Installed H&R lowering springs, Bilstein B8 struts/shocks, lowered/aligned with new set of Bridgestone Tires a few weeks ago. This is a needs nothing car, and probably one of the nicest in existence $41,995 obo PM me if you are interested.

POST 57Original post

My friend has test driven (8) C4's in the last month, but unfortunately he isn't willing to go that high in price for an N/A 996.... Hope you get what you are asking, but if you do a price drop feel free to PM me. We are also Colorado Porsche owners...

POST 58Original post

Beautiful car! somebody out there will be very happy owning this car.

POST 59Original post

So you kept it all of 6 weeks huh? I have a hard time believing this is priced 5k over dealer trade-in. Flipping for a quick profit? Not accusing, just asking.

POST 60Original post

What a gorgeous car. Good luck! Clean, low-mile C4S cars are definitely creeping into 996TT range now, price-wise. The widebody stuff is just worth more.

POST 61 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Not at all. Read the first post on my thread, never intended to buy a 996 let alone this car. That said, why would I not buy a pristine, low mileage one owner, 996 C4S that was literally 3 blocks from my house? Did some necessary mods & upgrades, drove the car 3000 miles in a short period of time, and fell in love with the car. Intended to keep the car a long time as a very nice driver. Never would have done anything to the car if my intention was to buy & "Flip". It was that good and pristine from the start. Could have let the next owner deal with IMS and anything else. All my cars are no excuse, done right cars, I guess I'm a fanatic in that way, especially with Porsche's, aren't we all?!! As it turns out I was offered an incredible car last week and I don't have the space for the new aquisition, and this 996 C4S, so it must go. as of today, car is SOLD

POST 62Original post

Congrats! Hope to see you back in the 996 world again. Edit: what's the new car? Got a pic? You know we love pictures on this forum.

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If it was another 996, it would be a 996 GT3 Mums the word for now... Since we all like pictures, here are a few from a recent trip to Palm Springs, CA. RGruppe Treffen, a fun track day, and some good drives with our friend Chad McQueen.

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