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YOUR RESEARCHWhat's up with Loctite?

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I learned about 243 as it came with my EBS Baffle that I had installed before moving up to the LN Deep sump.

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Use amazon pretty successfully

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For the harder-to-get stuff, such as low-strength Loctite (which I use on my dirt bike), I've used Amazon pretty successfully.

What's up with Loctite?

Use on my dirt bike), i've

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For the harder-to-get stuff, such as low-strength Loctite (which I use on my dirt bike), I've used Amazon pretty successfully.

What's up with Loctite?

Recommend gasket

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I thought Loctite 5900 was the Porsche recommended gasket?

What's up with Loctite?

Recommend loctite 5900

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Here's the recommended Loctite 5900 for the oil pan and these guys are always quick to ship.

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Install before moving up

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I learned about 243 as it came with my EBS Baffle that I had installed before moving up to the LN Deep sump.

What's up with Loctite?

Recommend gasket

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I thought Loctite 5900 was the Porsche recommended gasket?

What's up with Loctite?

Recommend loctite 5900

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Here's the recommended Loctite 5900 for the oil pan and these guys are always quick to ship.

What's up with Loctite?

Use amazon pretty successfully

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For the harder-to-get stuff, such as low-strength Loctite (which I use on my dirt bike), I've used Amazon pretty successfully.

What's up with Loctite?

Use anaerobic gasket maker (which loctite 518 is)

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Forgot to ask, is it necessary to use the anaerobic gasket maker (which Loctite 518 is) on the oil pan?

What's up with Loctite?

Use anaerobic helps in

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I believe using anaerobic helps in that whatever is squeezed out to the inside of the sump will not harden and possibly clog up anything.

What's up with Loctite?

Use drei bond

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Just use drei bond for the pan and blue loctite for the bolts.

What's up with Loctite?

Use enough

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That said, it is important to use whatever you choose sparingly so this doesn't happen, That said, it is probably impossible to get a good seal without using enough to having some small amount squeeze out.

What's up with Loctite?

Use loctite 243

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Using Loctite 243 on the bolts.

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Use loctite 518

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In his 2009 "Flat 6 Innovations installation of LN Engineering Deep Sump Kit" video series on youtube he uses Loctite 518.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I can't find Loctite anywhere in stores. I thought this stuff would be sold everywhere. I'm dropping the oil pan and wanted to buy Loctite 518 gasket maker and 242 threadlocker. It is nowhere to be found in stores. So I ordered it online from a major retailer's website which I would rather not use because I hate their corporate policies, but did so due to availability. So today I get a .5ml tube of 242 threadlocker instead of the 50ml bottle that was advertised and I paid $11.27. So I received 1/20th the amount. which means it would cost $225.4 for 50ml's ($11.27 x 20). Turns out they say it is not a mistake. Needless to say they refunding me The 518 gasket maker is out of stock so they say even though they said it shipped. Needless to say they are refunding me. So now I still have no Loctite! Even on the Loctite website under "where to buy" it lists only 4 mom and pop shops within 25 miles that sells it. And I live in Miami, Fl. I thought this stuff was sold everywhere. Even Amazon has limited availability. Anyway. So 2 questions: Anyone know where do you guys get this stuff? Do I have to use this exact stuff? I assume not, but wanted to use it since Jake's video shows him using these particular Loctite products. In other words, what are good substitutes that are available at Autozone or Home Depot, etc? Thanks.

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Advance Auto Parts usually has a good selection, so I'm sure NAPA does too. Lowe's/Home Depot also. For the harder-to-get stuff, such as low-strength Loctite (which I use on my dirt bike), I've used Amazon pretty successfully.

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Here's the recommended Loctite 5900 for the oil pan and these guys are always quick to ship. Be sure to use a very small bead, people are always using too much and getting silicone in their oil filters. http://www.rmeuropean.com/Products/0...35-MFG258.aspx

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Just use drei bond for the pan and blue loctite for the bolts.

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You can use Reinzosil for the oil pan gasket, it is awesome and is easy to apply, unlike the Loctite 5900 which is very hard to come out, unless you have the little gun which I have never seen except in a pictures. $9.52 with free (not prime) shipping, this is what ships with the TuneRSMotorsports/Techno Deep sump, and I used it with my LN Deep Sump https://www.amazon.com/VICTOR-REINZ-...ords=reinzosil For the bolts, you can use Loctite 243 medium strength surface insensitive threadlocker, more oil resistant and higher temp resistant than "regular" medium Loctite. Here is a "big" bottle for $16, I have this one and it has lasted me a good long while. I learned about 243 as it came with my EBS Baffle that I had installed before moving up to the LN Deep sump. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 If you have a Fastenal nearby they have house brands for many Loctite products, as well as the Loctite versions themselves.

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Advanced Auto, AutoZone, Home Depot, Ace Hardware, and NAPA in my area do not have any Loctite in the stores... Forgot to ask, is it necessary to use the anaerobic gasket maker (which Loctite 518 is) on the oil pan? Big auto chains only carry permatex brand around me.

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I agree - only Permatex brand at the chain auto parts stores. I have been ordering online from www.zoro.com . They have pretty much all the LocTite stuff and shipping is usually a flat $5 which seems fair to me. https://www.zoro.com/search?q=loctite

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What's wrong with Permatex?

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Is a 50ml tube of the Loctite 518 enough to do the oil pan or should I order 2? I'm ordering it from www.zoro.com Using Loctite 243 on the bolts. Same as 242 but works better if surfaces are contaminated with oils and such. Could go with: Permatex Ultra Grey Rigid High-Torque RTV Silicone Gasket Maker (3.5 oz) Can get it at Advanced Auto locally and at a third of the price, but it's not anaerobic and only heard 1 person who suggests using it. Probably over thinking all this but don't want to have a leak after dumping $100 worth of JG Dt40 oil, and don't want to do it twice.

POST 11Original post

I thought Loctite 5900 was the Porsche recommended gasket? But it is a pain. One 50ml tube is good for 3-4 pan drops.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

From what I've gather 5900 from Loctite & Dreibond from the dealer are the preferred. But Loctite 518 is supposed to be just as good and easier to apply. Not sure about 5900 or Dreibond being anaerobic, but 518 is. I believe using anaerobic helps in that whatever is squeezed out to the inside of the sump will not harden and possibly clog up anything. What squeezes out to the outside of course can be wiped away. So my logic here is that if you do use something that is not anaerobic and too much product is used and it is squeezed into the oil sump, it will harden into chunks and then break away into the oil. Whereas an anaerobic product will not harden and will remain liquid and mix into the oil harmlessly. The anaerobic stuff only hardens when it is squeezed between to surfaces and deprived of oxygen. That said, it is important to use whatever you choose sparingly so this doesn't happen, That said, it is probably impossible to get a good seal without using enough to having some small amount squeeze out. Disclaimer: This is what I have found in the 3 days I've been researching this. I may stand corrected by others. 72 hours ago I never knew anaerobic sealers and and gasket makers existed. I'm just relaying how I'm connecting the dots from the vast amount of dots that are out there.

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Oh...and because that magnificent bastard in the mountains of Georgia uses it.

POST 14Original post

Great research and information. I will give the 518 a shot next time. Thanks!

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That "magnificent bastard" says he's a Dreibond user. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post13103643 (For what very little addition its worth), I didn't find Dreibond hard to use, nor was it hard to apply the correct amount to get a perfect seal with no excess squeezing out.

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Well Well Well.... In his 2009 "Flat 6 Innovations installation of LN Engineering Deep Sump Kit" video series on youtube he uses Loctite 518. Oh mythical mountain man...if your listening (reading actually)...what do you sayth?

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