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Write the check after having the oil test done at a min.

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Replace on it and take a look at the filter

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If you can�t do a PPI, at least try to get him to let you get/do and oil change on it and take a look at the filter.

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Run away

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You can RUN AWAY from this one and feel good about it.

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Run car fax and see what shows up

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I think I'll run a car fax and see what shows up.

I'm buying a 996. Need help

Run carfax

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Did you run the Carfax?

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Write the check after having the oil test done at a min.

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Replace on it and take a look at the filter

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If you can�t do a PPI, at least try to get him to let you get/do and oil change on it and take a look at the filter.

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Run away

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You can RUN AWAY from this one and feel good about it.

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Run car fax and see what shows up

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I think I'll run a car fax and see what shows up.

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Run carfax

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Did you run the Carfax?

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Run forest

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If he won't wait for the oil and filter to be checked, run Forest run.

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Test done at a min

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Write the check after having the oil test done at a min.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi everyone. I'm looking at a 996 and need help. Can an option sticker be wrong? Here is the VIN: WP0AA29983S620084 It's a great car. Amazing car. However, it's from a dealer and there are no records. It has the option code sticker but there are lots of options on the car that are not on the option code sticker. Some options would be difficult to add and others are costly to do after the car is purchased. For example, it has the bose stereo, heated sport seats, xenon headlights, 18" light wheels with colored crests and none of it is on the option sticker. Can they option sticker be wrong? Wheels are easy to add, but sports seats that are heated with the buttons would some work to add (I would think). The bose stereo would be a trick to add too. Can the option sticker be wrong?

POST 2Original post

Dealer install option not unusual How many owners? Car Fax?

POST 3Original post

Any signs of flooding? I'd have a thorough PPI done.

POST 4Original post

Does the vin on the hood / options sticker match the rest of the car?

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yup. All other options check out. For example, crests in head rest. They are there, but in sport seats.

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 15106580

And the VIN is the same? If not, could be a replacement hood. Is the options sticker also in the manual still? Does that all match? I agree, while adding some of that stuff would be easy, the heated seats and bose would be awfully tough since the wiring harnesses are custom to the options (I believe).

POST 7Original post

Mine will be for sale soon, if you are interested in a nice 25K original mile car with all maintenance done and up to date. 6-speed coupe 2003. I am buying a 996-GT3 to replace it. PM me if you are interested. Sorry to hijack.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sticker in the book is a match to the hood. All options on the list are there except what's highlighted in the above post. Here's the biggest kicker. It's an x-51 car. It's on the sticker. I want the car, but the oddities just aren't adding up. No records suck too. I think I'll run a car fax and see what shows up.

POST 9Original post

Sounds like a nicely optioned car, I hope you don't let the disagreement between the car and the sticker turn you off. When I was searching for a 996 I heard of people finding the same issue. Some people found the COA to be more accurate.

POST 10Original post

Naturally it would be better if everything matched up but that's not a reason to not purchase the car. In this case you are not purchasing an investment vehicle or even a desirable car (relative to all other 911s). Let's face it you can buy a 996 for under $15k all day long. Heck you can buy mine for $14k and I have records. So I would just base your decision on the car that is in front of you and buy it for what it actually is not the option sticker. No records and buying from a dealer? Make sure your PPI is done by a true Porsche expert. Assuming there are zero records you will need to perform all maintenance that you can't see with your eyes and that could get very costly very quickly.

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 15106908

This. Unless this is a rare 996 (like a Turbo S with 350km, or a GT Car) then you really only care about the mechanical condition of the car.

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/c...626597509.html Feel free to pick it apart. The guy knows nothing about Porsche's. It's a 2003. x-51, 030, rear wing and sports exhaust are all on the option sticker. Has all the options I'd want except sunroof delete. Even 10mm lowered drivers seat. zero records. The guy is planning on taking it to the action today or tomorrow. The photos were taken months ago. The car is dirty. Seat backs on the sports seats have excessive scratches. Rims are spotless. Tires have amazing tread depth, but are from late 2012/early 2013. It's like it hasn't been driven since then. Tool kits is missing. All manuals are present. Windshield has been replace. No real evidence of paintwork. Has a K&N Filter in it. Seat heater buttons don't light up and might not work at all. Drivers window might need a new regulator as it pops down when you open the door but then goes back up before you close the door. 66K miles. Has an LN Engineering Sticker on the Engine indicating the IMS has been done. Clutch is tight and feels newer. There is no time for a PPI. He's dropping it off at the auction.

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No time for a PPI? Maybe you shouldn�t buy. Seriously, you can call LN and find out when the IMSB was done and look over all the known visible 349 modes of failure yourself. If you can�t do a PPI, at least try to get him to let you get/do and oil change on it and take a look at the filter. Other than bore scoring and chain tensioners, there�s not much more you can�t tell from the filter (assuming the IMS is still within its �time� window).

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My second piece of advice is the guy sounds like a complete douche. First, he�s had the car for months and �suddenly� it needs to go to the auction today or tomorrow. He ain�t getting $21,500 at auction. Period. Either the car has something wrong with it or he�s just using it as a tactic to get you to buy now. If the car is clean and checks out, he�s going to get a LOT more for it in a few days pending a PPI. Second, the ad says 60,000 miles, you said it�s got 66,000. I HATE people who will fib to the tune of 6,000 miles. That�s two or three years of life on one of these cars. I�d be wary.

POST 17Original post

That 996 would do $19,500-20,000 at the auction, perhaps slightly more due to the colors (black/black), equipment and IMS bearing retrofit. Assuming it checks out (paintwork, mechanical, etc.), looks reasonable.

POST 18Original post

With those options and mileage, and the fact that its a late model car, I'd be expecting a price over 24k. The price probably isn't low enough though for me to want to rush into it with no PPI. When I hear people say "I don't know anything about ____" it always sounds to me like they're just trying to avoid having to answer questions about the car because there's something they don't want to disclose.

POST 19Original post

So the seller would rather go to auction and get $5,000 less than wait for your PPI? Yea right. You can RUN AWAY from this one and feel good about it. Prediction...the car is still for sale in two weeks.

POST 20Original post

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I agree 100%... Take your time, there are so many great examples out there.

POST 22Original post

I�ve seen instances where the options code and car don�t match, especially on the later 996�s. I think that Porsche started putting together option packages, and those aren�t always correctly represented on the option sticker, though they would be on the COA/ build sheet.

POST 23Original post

Something doesn't add up, I wouldn't waste my time or money with this guy. There are way too many for sale out there so unless this has specific traits you must have walk away, FAST....

POST 24Original post

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Really? Sports seats, PSE, 030 and X51? I can't imagine other than a 40th anniversary lots out there with these options. .. Only thing I'd want is an aero kit. OP, are you still persueing?

POST 25Original post

A PO found sports seats somewhere dirt cheap and swapped them, but didn't hook up the power. The headlights are a fair amount of work to change, but it can be done by anyone with a bit of time and effort. At least you can figure someone prior to you loved the car and did some upgrades. Otherwise, it is a well optioned car, and a desirable mileage. Guess my advice would be don't sweat the small stuff. Write the check after having the oil test done at a min. If he won't wait for the oil and filter to be checked, run Forest run. I have the same basic thing in red without the heated seats or X51. I also have M030, and traction control, etc. I'm selling mine for $21,500 too but I can come down some now.

POST 27Original post

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Well those would be the traits I am talking about... I am saying there are a lot of 996's for sale but if he must absolutely have these specific features then maybe this is the right one for him.

POST 28 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The ding dong still has the car. He never took it to the auction. I doubt he will. I like the "traits" on the car except for the black exterior. I don't like the lack of records. At a minimum it needs 2 to 4 k in services as noted above. I offered him $17,500 as is. We'll see what happens.

POST 29Original post

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If you want the car, show up with cash in hand and make the offer in person...I would never negotiate via email or on the phone.

POST 30Original post

I wondered about this myself. My C4S option sticker shows a tip but it's a 6-speed.

POST 31Original post

When I pointed out the front bumper "droop", I wasn't implying that's something that normally occurs. It's a flag to me that something may be wrong that needs to be investigated. Best case is it's not completely installed. Worst case is there is front end damage that prevents it from being aligned correctly.

POST 33Original post

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very nice, I'd say.

POST 34Original post

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it's a dealer, he has 66 other listings due diligence first, that's a pretty loaded '03, X51 is nice as is the rest good luck

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