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YOUR RESEARCHOne of these things is not like the other

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Clean before locking

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That piston looks too clean, like it has been steam cleaned before locking.

One of these things is not like the other
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Check cracks if the motor is apart you should listen

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Suggestion · Original poster

I guess when they tell you to get your cases checked for cracks if the motor is apart you should listen.

One of these things is not like the other
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Leading evidence: 'Clean before locking' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'detonation played a role in this one' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check cracks if the motor is apart you should listen' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Install heads

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I was really careful when I installed the heads on this rebuild.

One of these things is not like the other

detonation played a role in this one

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Suspected cause

BUT based on lots of signs I see, I'd suspect detonation played a role in this one.

One of these things is not like the other

Check cracks if the motor is apart you should listen

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Suggestion · Original poster

I guess when they tell you to get your cases checked for cracks if the motor is apart you should listen.

One of these things is not like the other

Clean compared

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Suggestion

The piston head in that failed cylinder looks really clean compared to the others.

One of these things is not like the other
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Check cracks if the motor is apart you should listen

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Suggestion · Original poster

I guess when they tell you to get your cases checked for cracks if the motor is apart you should listen.

One of these things is not like the other

Clean before locking

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That piston looks too clean, like it has been steam cleaned before locking.

One of these things is not like the other

Clean compared

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Suggestion

The piston head in that failed cylinder looks really clean compared to the others.

One of these things is not like the other

Clean like it has been steam

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Suggestion

That piston looks too clean, like it has been steam cleaned before locking.

One of these things is not like the other

Install heads

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

I was really careful when I installed the heads on this rebuild.

One of these things is not like the other

Run like a top

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Suggestion · Original poster

I had just gotten to about 1000 miles, the thing was running like a top.

One of these things is not like the other
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detonation played a role in this one

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Suspected cause

BUT based on lots of signs I see, I'd suspect detonation played a role in this one.

One of these things is not like the other
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hey Jake Raby, what mode of failure is this?

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POST 9Original post

It's pretty clear that the valves hit the top of the end piston... One of the chains let go? IMSB failure ?

POST 10Original post

the piston is turned in the bore....rod failure ?

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 14484757

Certainly possible! I think the big question at this point is which failure came first...

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Quotes source post: 14484802

the more biggerer question......their checkbook balance to-day

POST 13Original post

Definitely a rod failure , due to spun bearing? Is the big end of the rod turned blue? If the big end is blue, it failed due to lack of lubrication, if it is NOT blue , it failed due to stress and bolt failure.

POST 15Original post

The piston head in that failed cylinder looks really clean compared to the others. Maybe it had some water intrusion, got steam cleaned and lead to complete failure? I see cracked cylinder walls.

POST 16Original post

Hydraulic lock from cracked cylinder? That piston looks too clean, like it has been steam cleaned before locking. Depazos is a faster type.

POST 17Original post

Did you forget to cover your snorkel before washing it?

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 14485370

Or park it on an unapproved angle

POST 19Original post

We haven't seen the rod, so no one knows... BUT based on lots of signs I see, I'd suspect detonation played a role in this one. I've seen pistons explode due to knock sensors that failed, coupled to cheap gas/ bad gas. One of the forum members who attended my class last year built a Boxster engine and left old gas (1.5 years old) in the tank. It exploded a piston in less than 100 miles. I read the plugs, and every cylinder was detonating. I first saw this failure in 2008.

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Quotes source post: 14486205

Holy Crap!!! That's scary stuff...what do "detonated" plugs look like?

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks to all. I was really careful when I installed the heads on this rebuild. I suspect there was some coolant seepage. I had just gotten to about 1000 miles, the thing was running like a top. I took a 1 hour drive. Oil pressure was fantastic, coolant temp was perfect, no codes, just driving it and having fun. Then in an instant it locked up. It must have hydro locked and somehow the piston got caught in the bore and the whole wrist pin pulled out. The rod is bent. The big end bearing feels good. I'll be splitting the cases to have a better look. I didn't see any evidence of detonation on the plugs. I'll check again. I guess when they tell you to get your cases checked for cracks if the motor is apart you should listen. But I think it cracked when the coolant rushed in and the rising piston made it all explode.

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