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YOUR RESEARCHTransaxle mount tool
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I did this with wheel bearings (also kept them in a ice filled cooler in the garage until I was ready to install - no freezer in the garage, and it's a few miles from my house...) and was amazed at how easily/smoothly they went in.
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I took the liberty of getting under my car last night, 30 degrees in the garage, and installed the PowerFlex insert.
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This is the "rough version" of the tool that I used last night.
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I have read other horror stories not being able to get insert in and having to used a rubber mallet or a c-clip to push them in.
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I did this with wheel bearings (also kept them in a ice filled cooler in the garage until I was ready to install - no freezer in the garage, and it's a few miles from my house...) and was amazed at how easily/smoothly they went in.
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I used a home made hack which was similar in function but running around buying the parts for the task and the time, like I said would be much easier to wait for the rental tool to arrive in the mail.
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I think it's a swell idea what you are attempting to do and for future replacements of the Transmission mount I would be interested in using the fancy tool.
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I used a home made hack which was similar in function but running around buying the parts for the task and the time, like I said would be much easier to wait for the rental tool to arrive in the mail.
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I used a 12 ton shop press and it worked pretty hard, even after cooling the new transmission bushing in the freezer for several days.
Some of you may have seen the AGA tool that presses the transmission mount bushing in and out without removing the transaxle. It is a huge time saver compared to removing the transaxle and using a press, but the tool is expensive. If I bought one, who would want to rent it when I was done using it?
Edit: Tool received, rental rate is $250 core charge, $180 refund upon return of tool.
I would definitely be interested in renting this tool. Please keep me posted if you plan on buying one as I would like to be first in line to rent it from you.
thanks
Will
Too bad I already did my transmission mount a few months ago utilizing a makeshift tool set up similar to the AGA tool, it would of been nice to have been able to rent it from a rennlist member. I think it's a swell idea what you are attempting to do and for future replacements of the Transmission mount I would be interested in using the fancy tool.
If a picture is worth... this video link is priceless ?I hope it helps you .Better , someone would make a diy hack version ?Note
the tool is useful for BOXSTERS also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwznwND__zc
Just a word of advice... I had a small specialty tool rental business (for BMW stuff and also suspension stuff...
You have to assume the tool will not come back, or will come back in bad shape. So you have to account for that in the rental deposit. Basically the person has to buy the tool and then get a partial refund.
I had had more people "buy" the tool and never return it then actually rent them.
i had considered doing the same with all the tools I bought to re-construct my M96 engine although the endeavor is not lucrative. If you are doing it to be part of the community that is cool and I support that. If you intend on recouping money it may not be what you think it is...
Additionally a home brew version of that tool can be made for about $10-15 in basic form. So maybe a robust home built tool that would be no great loss if it didn't come back would be good?
This is the "rough version" of the tool that I used last night. It consisted of another flat plate and two 8" bolts and nuts. If I were to remake the tool it would have been thicker plate and I would have spaced out the backing plate a little more.
Okay I think I'm going to go ahead and order the tool. I'm doing it more just so I can have it and as a service to you guys on the forum. I like RRTEC's advice of renting it out with a large deposit, basically the renter just buys the tool, and I refund most of the deposit upon return (or you just keep it).
Well done for organizing this. Thank you. But please stick to the RRTEC rule.It would be a pity if you got swindled. And avoid anyone who dickers about the deposit. Ask me .....
I think right now, after I use it, it would be:
1. rolex11
2. 808bill
3. Copilot
4. idlook2 (has engine out and would like it sooner if anyone doesn't mind waiting)
5. Batman33
6. Platz Da
7. Innov8
"Well I figure $250 deposit, then I return $180 when I get the tool back. Does that sound reasonable?"
$70 to rent a $300 tool seems a little steep. I think maybe $50 would be a reasonable rental - remember there's shipping costs too. Also, I'm not sure I understand only a $250 deposit... What's to keep someone from just "buying it from you" (ie. not giving it back) for $250 ? Essentially, that's the implied "offer"... I'm just kind of thinking out loud, not being disparaging.
$70 is a better alternative to $300+ of buying it for a 1 or 2 time use. Not to mention being capable of doing the job (replacing the trans mount) without having to remove the whole assembly or the engine. IMO, the price seems fair.
Having done the trans mount job already if I had to do it again it would of saved time and money to just rent the tool. I used a home made hack which was similar in function but running around buying the parts for the task and the time, like I said would be much easier to wait for the rental tool to arrive in the mail.
Thank you, Knfeparty for aiding the 996 community by making the tool available for rental.
Knfeparty,
I can be skipped on the list. I took the liberty of getting under my car last night, 30 degrees in the garage, and installed the PowerFlex insert. Upon examining the Tranny mount there were no visible tears and I am going to see how the insert address the shifting and tranny play. Please put Rolex11 next on the list. After a couple rides I will let you know how insert works and if my name needs to be added back to the list.
Thanks
Will
^^ Sounds good. I think a mount has to be really trashed to start showing tears. Most of the time they just collapse a bit as the first indication of the rubber wearing out. I figure any soft part that is from the factory is due for a change by now.
Tool has shipped but I haven't received it yet.
KnfeParty,
Good point on the collapse part. I have read other horror stories not being able to get insert in and having to used a rubber mallet or a c-clip to push them in. I put a little dish soap and slid them in by hand. I am really hoping this works. Thanks again for getting the tool and setting up a rental program, you sir are a class act!
will
Purchased a 996 a few months ago, swapped out the motor mounts with good results. Am now looking to swap out trans mount and was searching for a tool rental -- came across this thread and signed up with Rennlist. Any chance of getting added to knfeparty's rental list?
Kfnfeparty, Feel free to put Platz Da ahead of me. I'm in no hurry. I'm like another poster who said they really don't need to replace the mount but would do so for the $70 rental. Thanks. Batman 33
For those of you who have not yet ordered your replacement mounts, the instructions from AGA state that the mounts they provide have a small chamfer machined into one side to assist with aligning them during install. The AGA mount is a bit more expensive than ordered one somewhere else, but I would recommend going through them. Not knowing this, I just ordered one off of Amazon, but I do have access to a lathe so I'm going to machine it a bit myself. I imagine that putting the mount in the freezer and installing it cold would help as well.
"I imagine that putting the mount in the freezer and installing it cold would help as well."
^It'll make a huge difference^ Put the part in the freezer the night before you're going to do the job. I did this with wheel bearings (also kept them in a ice filled cooler in the garage until I was ready to install - no freezer in the garage, and it's a few miles from my house...) and was amazed at how easily/smoothly they went in.
Yes sir, indeed placing the trans mount in the freezer prior to install does ease it's install. I know from experience
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Knfeparty, not sure if you had seem this thread. (Tool Loan & Registry)
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-location.html
Alright so work has had me away from home a lot, had a death in the family, etc. I haven't even gotten around to getting the 911 up on jackstands yet but I plan to do it this week and then get to shipping the tool out.
Thanks for your patience
Sorry for the ENORMOUS delay; stuff kept coming up at work or with trips, etc. I accidentally bought an e39 M5 and that consumed a lot of time.
Anyways, I used the tool today. Even with a very relaxed pace and taking lots of pictures, the whole thing from on the lift to off was 2.5 hours.
Two very strong recommendations:
1. Use a lift. I used a drive-on; a chassis lift would work too. No reason it couldn't be done on jackstands but wow it would be a pain.
2. Put the new mount bushing in the freezer, and then into a cooler full of ice so that it is very cold right as you install it.
Are you still renting this tool, or do I take it from the fact that you have it listed for sale in the classifieds that you are not accepting rentals anymore?
The AGA tool seems to be available again from a new poster.
For the archives, in case you can't get this tool, the the outer race from a 2010 Audi S4 wheel bearing fit perfectly for a press mandrel. I was scrounging around the shop for something close in size and this was a made in heaven fit.
That tool must exert a lot of force. I used a 12 ton shop press and it worked pretty hard, even after cooling the new transmission bushing in the freezer for several days. It reminds me of how much I need to upgrade my hydraulic press - it is infrequently used, but is so useful every time I do use it...
Yes, the force required is quite high. I have no way of measuring it easily, but I definitely think it's good that the tool uses Acme threads for higher load-bearing capability. A regular nut and bolt would have a hard time. In my case, the old mount came out relatively easily, but the new mount required more force on the way in. The tool is pricey for how relatively simple it is, but it definitely makes the job easy.
For anybody that needs to rent this tool, check this post and/or PM me:
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-for-rent.html
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