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YOUR RESEARCHOil Level with Deep Sump

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Install lne 2 quart deep sump

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I installed the LNE 2 quart deep sump.

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Fill engine

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The best thing you can do is run a fresh oil which is less likely to foam, an approved oil which among other things is blended to reduce the tendency to foam, and don't over fill the engine.

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Run oil at the max line

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For the street I run the oil at the max line when measured with the oil hot.

Oil Level with Deep Sump

Run oil level at the middle or above mark

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I've always ran my oil level at the middle or above mark.

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Fill engine

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The best thing you can do is run a fresh oil which is less likely to foam, an approved oil which among other things is blended to reduce the tendency to foam, and don't over fill the engine.

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Fill engine up

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One loses that extra 0.75" of oil over the pick up if he doesn't fill the engine up with oil.

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Fill engine

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The best thing you can do is run a fresh oil which is less likely to foam, an approved oil which among other things is blended to reduce the tendency to foam, and don't over fill the engine.

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Fill engine up

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One loses that extra 0.75" of oil over the pick up if he doesn't fill the engine up with oil.

Oil Level with Deep Sump

Install lne 2 quart deep sump

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I installed the LNE 2 quart deep sump.

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Recommend here

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Not sure if that is accurate...anyone know what is recommended here?

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Run fresh oil

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The best thing you can do is run a fresh oil which is less likely to foam, an approved oil which among other things is blended to reduce the tendency to foam, and don't over fill the engine.

Oil Level with Deep Sump

Run level at the bottom of the dipstick, even

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Why would you run the level at the bottom of the dipstick, even with a deep sump?

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Run mid

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Jake is who told me to run mid.

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Run oil at the max line

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For the street I run the oil at the max line when measured with the oil hot.

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Run oil at the same level

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If I tracked my cars I'd run the oil at the same level.

Oil Level with Deep Sump

Run oil level at the middle or above mark

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I've always ran my oil level at the middle or above mark.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I installed the LNE 2 quart deep sump. I read a post somewhere on the forum (can't find it now) that with a deep sump you should run the oil level at the bottom end of the dipstick (or dash gauge) to prevent fouling the AOS. Not sure if that is accurate...anyone know what is recommended here?

POST 2Original post

Why would you run the level at the bottom of the dipstick, even with a deep sump? In my mind the deep sump provides the advantage of more oil volume, thus more oil cooling and better long term lubrication. With a deep sump (usually with better baffles) and longer oil pickup pipe, one is simply increasing the oil volume available in the engine, and you would want to keep the oil level at or near the full mark to take advantage of that. The AOS is not going to get fouled with the level at full, unless you are pulling 3 G's in a long sweeping right hand turn. But then again, that is what the improved baffling is supposed to help prevent (oil sloshing in the sump), and keep the oil under the pickup tube. Just my opinion....

POST 3Original post

I've always ran my oil level at the middle or above mark. I would never purposely run it low at a track day. 2 to 3 bars below the full mark is where I like to keep it for track days this is measuring it with the digital Guage after its been sitting for 12+ hours.

POST 4Original post

I wouldn't and don't run it at the bottom, but definitely don't fill it up either. and yes, with the oil at the top line, you risk getting oil into your AOS. the prime advantage of the deep sump is that you have an extra .75" of oil above the pickup, making it harder to uncover. Combine that with vertical and horizontal baffling and you don't need the oil to the max line.

POST 5Original post

As AWD said, right smack in the middle. And I've never had an AOS smoke with the oil level there.

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 14667274

It makes no sense to add a deeper sump then to fill this sump up with less oil. One loses that extra 0.75" of oil over the pick up if he doesn't fill the engine up with oil. Kind of defeats the purpose of the deeper sump. Oil in vapor possibly even oil in liquid droplet form is going to get into the AOS no matter what and especially during a track session. The engine becomes one big oil vapor generator and a considerable amount of oil liquid oil in droplet form is suspended in the engine under the camshaft covers and in the crankcase proper. At various times around a track (or on the street) a lot of this vapor and even some of the suspended oil gets pulled through the AOS. The best thing you can do is run a fresh oil which is less likely to foam, an approved oil which among other things is blended to reduce the tendency to foam, and don't over fill the engine. But fill the engine up with oil. For the street I run the oil at the max line when measured with the oil hot. If I tracked my cars I'd run the oil at the same level.

POST 7Original post

did you also install an oil pickup tube extension? If not, then the oil will be at the same height no matter how deep the new oil pan is, no?

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 14668122

Yes the LNE 2 quart kit includes a pickup extension as well as 997 return tubes.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So I contacted LNE since there seems to be controversy about this. Here is their response: Ticket 746 has been replied to. Stephen wrote: Good morning Nick, Yes, that is correct. Run the oil level at the minimum level or just a tad over. I've also attached a few technical documents that may be useful to you as well to read at your leisure. Thanks!

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 14668140

Awesome. I couldnt recall if the kit came with it.

POST 11Original post

Jake is who told me to run mid. Sounds like either mid or low will work.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 14668115

The 997 return tubes are a trade off between more foaming vs the 996 swirl pots but speeding the return of oil to the sump by deleting the swirl pots. Thinking about it...the sump is deeper but the dipstick (manual or electronic) is at the same level. So you are really not filling it with less oil by keeping it at a lower level. It still has more oil than before not to mention the baffles surrounding a pickup tube placed inside a nearly completely enclosed windage tray (which is unique to the LNE kit vs others). But I could be wrong.

POST 13Original post

Quotes source post: 14668115

again, stick to buying guides. this is simply something you dont understand because you have no experience with tracking the m96 or installing deep sumps and oil pan baffles

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