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Previous to the 996 had a built '05 E55 (swapped Airmatic out for coilovers) it was crazy fun and I miss it.

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Clean correct 911

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be a market for a clean, correct 911?

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^ That was probably the seller doing that.

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Clean correct 911

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be a market for a clean, correct 911?

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Replace policy

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I just wish that eBay would change the policy on bid retractions.

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Replace someone's mind about bidding they need

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If that changes someone's mind about bidding they need to be smacked

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be a market for a clean, correct 911?

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Replace airmatic out

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Previous to the 996 had a built '05 E55 (swapped Airmatic out for coilovers) it was crazy fun and I miss it.

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Replace policy

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I just wish that eBay would change the policy on bid retractions.

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If that changes someone's mind about bidding they need to be smacked

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Set high-water mark

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Yeah, I expect this to set the high-water mark for early 996's, that looks about as nice as it can get.

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Test drive, i couldn't deny

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Was so skeptical as everyone was, but having driven hundreds of air cooled 911s, after my first test drive, I couldn't deny that the 996 was an awesome car, that has alway stuck with me, bad reputation aside, years later I still know what a phenomenal car they are....

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^ That was probably the seller doing that.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Check it out... http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-porsche-911-c2/

POST 3Original post

Yeah, I expect this to set the high-water mark for early 996's, that looks about as nice as it can get. Someone is going to bitch about the 7 owners on the CarFax, might want to explain that in a comment if it is in fact stuff like moving across state lines, lease buyouts and the other reasons that owner figures get inflated on CarFax. Or maybe it just has had 7 very caring owners :-) Looks great though, GLWS!

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, yes when I purchased the car I saw the six owners and didn't care due to the strength of its condition and the way it drove, even prior to me spending another $24k on it. The seller stated it was really three previous owners with title transfers and so on, but I have nothing to substantiate that...

POST 6Original post

What's your guess of what it will bring? It's our favorite BAT game and as the actual owner it's only fitting that you go first.

POST 7Original post

What offset are the wheels? Any rubbing with the 15mm spacers?

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'd love to see it crack $30k. I have far more in it (not that anyone cares...)

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Wheels are factory offsets at 18 X 8 et50 and 18 X 10 et65. Zero rubbing ever. Researched the hell out it before going with 15mm all the way around.

POST 10Original post

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I was thinking the same thing ... this is as well-sorted and nice a Mk 1 as I've seen in a long time. Hope it brings home all the money!

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I hate to see you are selling it. The only way (and funnest way) to get the value back out is by driving it. I'll guess it at 25k. But I hope it does bring 30.

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My actual guess is $28.5k I challenge anyone to find a cooler, better sorted car for that price point... (yes I'm biased)

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I worked for Brumos Porsche in service when the 996 first came out. Was so skeptical as everyone was, but having driven hundreds of air cooled 911s, after my first test drive, I couldn't deny that the 996 was an awesome car, that has alway stuck with me, bad reputation aside, years later I still know what a phenomenal car they are....

POST 16Original post

great photos senna, hope you don't mind a xpost of one. My favorite glws !

POST 17Original post

Just gave it a little love (well deserved) on BaT. I hope you get $30k, but I'll throw my guess dart at $26k. GLWS!

POST 18Original post

Damn fine looking machine there I love the guy that thought it might be an after market wing I think the $25k range is probable, but I could see $28k if you get a couple of people that really like your particular setup. GLWS

POST 19Original post

That's a damn nice car. And BaT's the place for it-- the merits of 996 seem pretty well-known to that audience, as witnessed by recent discussions and sale prices.

POST 20Original post

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Let me get this totally straight, you put 15mm spacers on wheels that have standard ET50 and ET65 and didn't experience any rub? WOW! That's a first! I see the rears being ok, but that brings the front offset to just 35mm. If that's not typo, then this is a first that I've heard it didn't cause any rub or knock on the fender edges. Btw, beautiful car... one the nicest Mk1 I've seen! Hope it sells for what you need!

POST 21 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

100% correct ^ effective 35et in front w/ zero interference, and that's with ride height about 1.25" lower than stock. There are a couple of people on here who have done the same. I tried a friends 7mm first an saw there was more than enough room to go 15mm.

POST 22Original post

Nice looking car. Do you know when the Aerokit was added?

POST 23Original post

Beautiful car! Really looking forward to seeing the comments and closing price. That's a lot of suspension work. Did you take it to the track or AX? GLWS.

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I believe the Aerokit was added at a Connecticut dealer very early in the cars life, not sure when.

POST 26 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I never tracked or autocross it. I know it's a lame excuse but I got to a point where it just seemed too nice to subject it to that.

POST 27Original post

I'm really hoping you get close to $30k for it but someone is gonna nitpick and offer you $26k since it doesn't have the sport seats and CF interior option. GLWS

POST 28Original post

Holy crap, it is beautiful! GLWS. Hope it goes to a good home.

POST 29Original post

Your 996 presents itself well, some nice upgrades and a good story on your aero Porsche. I'll have to follow BAT to see how you do. Can't imagine many 996 owners not wanting to see a MY99 reach $30k.GLWS

POST 30Original post

That's a top notch 996. Good job on the tasteful updates and strong presentation. This car should do well on BaT. This would be a fun DE/Driver combo - if only I had room for another one.

POST 32Original post

It's a stunner, and so well prepped for the next owner. Good luck with the sale!

POST 33Original post

already $17k - lots of lusting commenters Nice to see the market is recognizing the value of a car of this quality.

POST 34Original post

Totally blown away by the suspension upgrade. How much would this be just by itself? GLWS and hopefully your reserve will be met.

POST 35 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank you all for kind comments! In answer to suspension cost, all of the parts totalled a little over $6k about another $1k in installation/tuning/height adjustments/alignment.

POST 36Original post

I know there is no backing out on BAT but have we talked you into wishing you were keeping it yet?

POST 37 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hahahaa, its no shortage of love for it, I simply have auto-ADD. I only wish I could keep them all... All of the work is fresh, I've thoroughly enjoyed it, part of the thrill for me is the chase and the project, now is the time to sell.

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I appreciate the precise answer! In the planning phase, one can easily forget about the 'tuning' cost of suspension upgrades and the attention to details required to pay due respect to such exquisite components.

POST 39Original post

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I can certainly relate. I had my 997tt for less than a year and my most recent prior car, '14 535i Msport was an amazing car, but I was tired of it after 6 months. My 996 is the first one that has felt just right though. Quirky, reasonable, sporty, mechanical, interesting and highly moddable. Oh ya, and I really enjoy driving it.

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Your Beetle headlight comment on BAT was pure awesome!! Thanks

POST 41Original post

Already past 21k with 5 days to spare?! Hell yes!

POST 42Original post

Nicest NA 996 I've seen in a long, lon..... eff it... in forever.

POST 43 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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High praise indeed sir, thank you! I'm definitely that dude who put his money where his mouth is, in regards to 996 love.

POST 44Original post

My guess is $31.6k. What a beautiful, well dialed-in car.

POST 45 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I like your optimism! I secretly think it will crack $30k although I've hedged my bets and put money on a $28.5k prediction.

POST 46Original post

Competition! http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...e-911-targa-2/ Bad timing on BAT's part.

POST 47Original post

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I don't really view this as competition as it's apples to oranges IMO. Those that want a more strict performance oriented car will get the Aero for sure. Those that want a top heavy cruiser will get the Targa.

POST 48 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Those that want a more strict performance oriented car will get the Aero for sure. Those that want a top heavy cruiser will get the Targa.[/QUOTE] I agree, zero worries, two totally different buyers both just happen to be black 996s, now if you were to list your car right now....

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Lol, can't compete with those Ohlin's, plus the anthracite BBS RS-GT's will be more appealing to the masses than my gold ones. Anyone remotely interested in performance driving(street/DE/Track/Auto-X) would be a fool not to seriously look at your car. The smart ones will do the math and realize they probably can't replicate it for what they can probably buy your car for with everything sorted out and zero downtime. Get in and drive...

POST 50Original post

Nice job on the build and the listing! Love was added.

POST 51Original post

$21,750. is the current bid.Plenty of time left for continued interest building on the BAT site.

POST 52Original post

Very cool car. Sometimes I miss my 996 NA. The aerokits really make the cars look nice. I passed the BAT link on to a few others. GLWS.

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Thanks!

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Currently at $24,500 I'd love to see it hit $30k but think it will top out around $28k. Once you're in the upper $20's you're competing against a lot of extreme low mileage Mk2 wide bodied C4S's. Although you do have the Aero crowd rooting for you.

POST 56Original post

$27600 and worth every penny (secretly rooting for $30k!)

POST 57Original post

I bet the winning bidder will get it for $29,999.99999999999975

POST 58Original post

Only 7 hours to go and still at $24,500. I hope for the sellers sake that there are several bidders out there waiting to bump it up at the last minute.

POST 59Original post

Why anyone would bid on an auction until just before it's over is beyond me.

POST 62Original post

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I think he's saying wait until the end and then put in your bid so less people have time to react.

POST 63Original post

BaT format precludes sniping: late bids add 2 minutes to the closing time, so the top dollar (not the timed dollar) takes the prize.

POST 64Original post

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You absolutely right! Common practice on eBay and other online auctions. Most buyers fear a bidding war or shill bidding to drive up the price and so they wait until the last minute to place their bids. Shill type bidders are the poison of online auctions. Some do it to fraudulently get the most out of an auction and some do it to "game the system" because they like the *high* that it brings to drive up the price or compete with a legitimate buyer. These types have NO desire to actually win the item. I've been "gamed" several times when bidding early. I once placed a proxy bid of $2,000 on a used camera lens. Some nut then exploited a loop hole in eBay bidding process that allows you to retract a bid if you think you've entered the wrong amount. So this nutcase kept upping the bids in $50 increments until he was the top bidder. You have about 5 minutes to retract a "entered wrong amount bid". Once this guy became the top bidder, he retracted it down to $50 under my highest bid which made me the top bidder again. I won the item, but I didn't get the item for $200, but got it for $2000.00. Gulp! I was screwed and eBay wouldn't do anything about this guy. Personally, if you retract one bid, all bids should be retracted in my opinion, AND should no longer be allowed to bid on that item. I've been on eBay for more than 15 years and they still don't listen to me. hahaha!

POST 65Original post

^ That was probably the seller doing that. I've had it done to me before also. That's why I typically don't put early bids in that are close to my top dollar. I'll put a low bid in early, then wait until the last minute to bid higher. Not really sniping - just trying to prevent the seller from pulling that crap.

POST 66Original post

Well, it's at $26,750 with several hours still to go, so my $26,000 guess isn't going to win the prize. Whoever has $28,000 or $29,000 is looking pretty good at this moment.

POST 67Original post

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FWIW, ebay has a shill bidding detection system, although not fool proof, it does detect this for most avg users. If the various users are bidding from the same IP, it will detect it and raise a flag and that seller gets a warning.

POST 68Original post

It would undoubtedly be less expensive for me to by 5senna5's car than do the upgrades I'm planning on my car... Too bad the SO doesn't see it that way!

POST 69Original post

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Yep! And they've done a lot to weed out fraudulent bidders, but you know and I know, that people who are serious about gaming the system will know many people from another state or even outside the country willing to place a bid or run up the bids. It's a bad mistake to ask someone on the same network. That's how the dummies get caught. I just wish that eBay would change the policy on bid retractions. Fortunately, I got burned when I was away on vacation and didn't have a iPhone, but now, I can bid anywhere with the ebay app and so I don't ever bid proxy because of that. Cheers!

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All you have to do is get a buddy/relative in a different city to shill bid for you.

POST 71Original post

now higher than the C4S X51 from a few weeks back, 27,500

POST 72Original post

jeez...wonder what a 4.0 C4S would fetch then. And the fact the payout is in USD, maybe I should wait and see if the CDN tanks more....

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POST 74 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Forgiveness rather than permission has always been my creed...

POST 75Original post

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After all you've been through, could you really let someone else drive off with it?

POST 76Original post

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Yeah this would work if you have a lot of fellow shady buddies willing to do that and ones that have a high post count. I tend to be suspicious at high bidding rate items where most of the bidders have low feedback. I often see these sell at some rediculous amounts only to be relisted again the next week. LOL.

POST 77Original post

5senna5, was just reading the comments on the auction and you are wrong about the side markers. All US spec cars had the amber side markers. Yours were replaced at some point in it's life. We are the original owners on our 01, built it with the Litronics, and it came with the orange markers that we didn't swap out until about midway through it's life. We still have them in the basement (that woman just won't let go of stuff ).

POST 78 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Oops... My buddy has a 2000 w/ Litronics and same smoked markers so I went with it...

POST 79 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Corrected my error in comments on BaT.

POST 80Original post

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If that changes someone's mind about bidding they need to be smacked Hell if I can sneak them out of the house without her noticing I'll send you ours that you can pass on if someone is picky about it

POST 81 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

As of right now, someone is getting a bad *** $24k rebuild on a $3.5k mint low mileage Aerokit C2...

POST 82Original post

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Ooohhh.. Broke $28k and now you have a little bidding war at the end. Congrats Edit: Holy crap nathanla just brought it!

POST 85Original post

Also, Pete just bought my car for $34,000. I have the legally binding texts to prove it. Wait till he finds out its a 1997 Miata that I lovingly refer to as an 02 targa.

POST 86Original post

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But but but.......

POST 87Original post

Holly ****! If this is real, nicely done! $35k?!

POST 88Original post

$35k??? my expense suddenly feels like an investment

POST 89Original post

I wanted to post that I bought my 99 aero C4 almost two years ago with 31K miles for $22K. I just have no idea why somebody would pay that much for that car......but glad for 5senna5!

POST 90Original post

Incredible! Well done OP. We are all very happy for you- and us

POST 91Original post

What's that you say? There'll always be a market for a clean, correct 911? Good for you, 5Senna5-- and happy hunting for your MB/B

POST 94 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thank you all...that whas exhilarating to say the least!! And yes you're all welcome for me pulling up the values of your 996s!!! Hahahaa

POST 95Original post

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Yeah. I still say it's a $25k car (based on market not what he has done to it), but seriously congrats. That is an awesome sale!

POST 96Original post

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Ha. I doubt you'll have to pay for beer for some time if there is a 996 lover around

POST 97Original post

Horree Clap! Congrats, lets just hope the sale goes all the way through. That's gotta be a record for a mk1 aero in recent times that I can remember.

POST 98Original post

A different animal, but I wonder what the Targa on BaT will sell for tomorrow... http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...e-911-targa-2/

POST 99 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Ha...prob the reverse, with that kind of a sale I'm sure I'd be expected to (and would gladly) be paying for the beers...

POST 100Original post

Wow. Makes me feel better about what I paid for my current POS track rat. But makes me a little sick that I sold this one for $15,750

POST 101Original post

!!!! Congrats 5senna5! That is an awesome price for a beautiful car.

POST 102Original post

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Yeah I'm still sick about that too

POST 103Original post

Wow, that's amazing! Couple of /strong/ 996.1 sales in recent weeks on BaT.

POST 104Original post

Wow! best of luck with finalizing the sale! How was it dealing with BAT? Is it a easy process listing with them? I have my car listed in the classifieds here and thought about trying it with them after seeing that C4S go for big money a couple of months ago..

POST 105Original post

Awesome outcome! Would also love a full report on the BaT process as a seller.

POST 106 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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The process was easy, however they are fairly choosey over what they will list. They will also push for a low reserve since a passed lot is a waste for them. With a flat $250 seller's fee it's a no brainer... If they accept your car, do it. The buyer's pool is enormous, educated, and has the means to purchase. As much as I love sites like this, most are enthusiast tire-kickers when it comes to classifieds. Cars don't exactly fly out of here, same old threads resurrected ad infinitum....

POST 107Original post

Seems like a good place to list and congrats on the sale. However I bought my 03' last year for $22,900.... Can't seem to see how some of these are selling near or above the $30k mark... All my car needed was a few small maintenance items and brakes. If I was going to shell out $30k plus I would be in a 997 not a 996

POST 108Original post

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You should take a look at the list of mods on that BaT car again... the wheels alone likely outstrip the value added items, if any, on the '99 you sold for $22K.

POST 109Original post

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Exactly, and sites like BAT are the one's that attract buyers that can appreciate and see value in tastefully modded cars as well, especially a 996 that is no where near collectable and can be more desireable on top quality modifications.

POST 110Original post

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did you receive the payment in full? any issues during this process?

POST 112Original post

Good sale. I really liked my 996 a.k.a the Blue Bullet.

POST 113Original post

I'd like to hear from 5senna5 once he has cashed the check. His 1999 was exceptional but $35,250?? WOW!! In spite of all the nice add ons it had I still would have guessed top of the market to be around $30k.

POST 115Original post

I really enjoyed following that auction. Congrats!!

POST 116 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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Wire transfer arrived in under 24 hours and buyer flew in this morning. It was pretty cool seeing him get ecstatic over the car. Def went to a good home.

POST 117Original post

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Damn that was a fast transaction. One of the best transactions you could probably hope for. Congrats again on finalizing the sale in a very prompt manner. What's next?

POST 119 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

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I'd like a CLK63 Black Series, although it's upper limit of what I'd like to spend. Next car will be an AMG Benz, I usually switch back and forth. A 2013-4 C63 coupe (reworked) is also a strong contender. Previous to the 996 had a built '05 E55 (swapped Airmatic out for coilovers) it was crazy fun and I miss it. Sold it to a friend who immediately wrote it off...

POST 120Original post

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Hit up my boy Tony Kanaan. I'm sure he'll sell you his for a song with all the goodies already on it if he still has it.

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