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How dare you have the gall to want to use your own car the way you see fit to have fun with it.
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Will I be able to do this with a TBD (Torque bias differential)?
It seams to be the car is spinning the inside wheel on this drift, preety cool though.
Porsche 911 Carrera (996) drift - YouTube
Probably but you'll have to be able to completely disable the TBD. Otherwise it will trigger and brake the inside spinning wheel to transfer torque to the outside wheel.
And disable PSM too.
And let me know which brand of tires you will be using. I want to buy some stock in the company.
Interesting that people have made a "sport" out of bad driving. I can make more tire smoke with a 1952 Oldsmobile Rocket 88 and a hydromatic transmission. After all the time and money Porsche put into making a car handle well, why are people spending their own money to undo it all. Driving slower by spinning your wheels doesn't seem like much of an achievement.
I was able to "grip drift" my car with an open diff. Completely stock other than brake pads, alignment and yaw sensor unplugged to disable traction control. But that's a little different than what that video showed. You'll notice he's just lighting up the tires and the car wants to go straight.
Yes, but late model 911 is as bad of a car as you can get for drifting. The whole RR layout is designed to create grip at the rear wheels.
At Porsche experience center on the wet pad, I didn't see anyone aside from instructors sustain the drift for more than 1/2 of the circle. AWD 911s could not drift at all, they all just understeer. To coax the 991 GTS to drift, it was all about mashing gas, waiting for the rear to finally break loose and keeping the slide going with throttle alone. Tuning the throttle input was the most challenging part, too much of it and car would start spinning out, too little and you lose the slide.
Porsche Experience Center - skidpad in 991.2 - YouTube
I have to strongly disagree. Showing a couple beginner drivers on a skid pad doesn't prove anything. 911s can be held sideways for DAYS! The newer the easier. The only caveat is you either need a locking diff or the electronics acting as a diff to really keep them going.
I don't see the issue with drifting a 911. It's just another form of car control. If you can drift one well with the right setup then it definitely shows you have a good feel for your car. Not that I'm going to go do it anytime soon but I don't think it's anything to snub my nose at.
I agree. It's about mastering car control. I'm not interested in hearing people's opinions about drifting. Simply asked if it was easier to do with a torque biased differential.
Check out the drifts this guy does in the following video. That's the kind of control I'm talking about
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http://youtu.be/k8b_d2bAuBQ
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2kpb5Ho10o0
I get my 911 sideways on a weekly basis "for fun".... you can induce lift off oversteer or snap oversteer on purpose... it doesn't mean I am taking away from the real handling of the car. I can also drive the car the way it was meant to be.
Too many uptight people in here.... maybe it is the kid in me. Sometimes I want to drive serious and sometimes I just want to F*** around
I don't do much in the way of throwing the back end out on roads. Mostly just enjoy the sound, cornering, steering, poise at speed, smooth shifting, and.... ok I'll stop.
The vids are cool, it's definitely a skill. The M5 kid from Europe (rip) was phenomenal. Even if you don't compete in drifting it's a great skill to have with a sports car.
How dare you have the gall to want to use your own car the way you see fit to have fun with it.
Don't you know the 996 is a rare and endangered vehicle that must be preserved? It is to be looked at, not driven!
But seriously, if you want to actually do any kind of competitive drifting (besides just goofing around with your car), the 911 is pretty much the worst possible platform for it (in terms of handling and traction dynamics). Also, be weary of killing your engine from oil starvation from sustaining spins for too long (akin to people on tracks with long high speed sweepers).
My idea is to be able to do controlled drifts and regulate them with the throttle such as in the videos I posted. Supposedly a smoother drift is possible with an LSD or TBD which is the reason I bought a TBD for my car although apparently its possible with an open diff also.
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