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YOUR RESEARCHPorsche accuses Nissan of cheating

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The article say they ran the Porsche laps on Cups.

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Run 7:38

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I am sure they would have found it running a 7:38 with them on.

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I am sure they would have found it running a 7:38 with them on.

Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating

Run gtr

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I think they should have run the GTR with the PS cups they use on the 997TT and GT2.

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Run lap at nurburgring

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There are no hard-and-fast rules about how to run a lap at Nurburgring.

Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating

Run ps2 sports

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If I ran PS2 sports and then PS Cups on a 1:40 track, I would knock a few seconds off my lap time with the Cups.

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I am sure they would have found it running a 7:38 with them on.

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Run gtr

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I think they should have run the GTR with the PS cups they use on the 997TT and GT2.

Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating

Run lap at nurburgring

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There are no hard-and-fast rules about how to run a lap at Nurburgring.

Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating

Run porsche laps

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The article say they ran the Porsche laps on Cups.

Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating

Run ps2 sports

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If I ran PS2 sports and then PS Cups on a 1:40 track, I would knock a few seconds off my lap time with the Cups.

Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating

Run semislicks

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whatever street tire thing is a little funny when you accuse the competition of running semislicks, but hey whatever.

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Use on the 997tt and gt2

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I think they should have run the GTR with the PS cups they use on the 997TT and GT2.

Porsche accuses Nissan of cheating
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/p...ting-the-ring/

POST 3Original post

'Ring times are helpful but they should always be taken with a grain of salt. There are no hard-and-fast rules about how to run a lap at Nurburgring.

POST 4Original post

And that's one example... all the other tests I've seen have the GTR stomping on Porsche for lap times of various places. However, maybe Nissan supplied "special" GTRs for the other tests. I heard about GM making a special effort of the fit/finish on Soltices going for media reviews.

POST 5Original post

Quotes source post: 5863740

True enough. However, 25 seconds is absolutely HUGE!! If Porsche purchased a GT-R and ran it with a professional driver who is familiar with the ring in good weather conditions, there is absolutely no way they should be that far off. I could believe a few seconds possibly, but no way 25. If true, it will be interesting to see this play out.

POST 7Original post

In Road & Track exotic car shootout Porsche still finished behind the GTR after overall points were total. 4 different courses, autocross, small road course, larger road course & oval track. Testing was done @ Willow Springs with 3 different professional drivers.

POST 8Original post

http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/mo...t_nurburgring/ A bit more details in this one. I think they should have run the GTR with the PS cups they use on the 997TT and GT2. I am sure they would have found it running a 7:38 with them on. Tires make a world of difference and they don't mention what tires were on the GTR.

POST 9Original post

they should just go with what is equiped from factory for everything, tires included.

POST 10Original post

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That wouldn't be fair. If I ran PS2 sports and then PS Cups on a 1:40 track, I would knock a few seconds off my lap time with the Cups. Also the 997 TT comes equipped with PS2's not PS cups. The article say they ran the Porsche laps on Cups.

POST 11Original post

Yeah the MPSC vs. whatever street tire thing is a little funny when you accuse the competition of running semislicks, but hey whatever. (I think the GT-R can be had from factory with summers or all seasons, I didn't see any mention at any of the 5000 places screaming this story yesterday)

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