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YOUR RESEARCH996 in the winter - Salt?
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Use blizzak lm-25's in the winter and never undercoated
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Used Blizzak LM-25's in the winter and never undercoated.
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No noticeable damage to the under body or paint (except arguably more rock chips on the front from the sand used with the salt).
Recommend quite a few years by most german manufacturers
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Undercoating has not been recommended for quite a few years by most German manufacturers.
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There is no doubt that no salt is better than salt, but I wouldn't let it stop me using the car.
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The car wash I go to uses natural imported spring water which is cleansed via a reverse osmosis system to purify the water before it goes through a UV filter and finally a triple filtration containment system.
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I was just wondering how the 996's are holding up for the folks that drive them in the winter? Any salt damage yet? Do you undercoat them?
I was pestering Adrian Streather on when his 996 book might be available, and he mentioned that the 996's are more vulnerable to salt damage because there is no lower motor cover (I think I quoted him correctly).
So, for those of you who are cruising around in the snow, how is the car holding up? Do you spray the underside for salt?
My never ending search keeps thinking about a C4S/Turbo for a year round D/D.
This subject has been discussed. Use the search feature. Not chastising you, just suggesting you will get a lot of value out of the result.
IMHO:
Salt does damage to almost any machine, no matter what it is made of. Porsches do hold up well. Keep it clean, and dry. Salt does its damage with moisture. If you want to drive your car on salted roads, do so and enjoy it. I think it will hurt the car, but then again I track mine and I believe that hurts it worse than salt. Salt is not for me, I have other cars that take that abuse. Let no one tell you it doesn't hurt the car.
One thing might help. I believe some automatic carwashes do the undercarriage. A trip through after the salt washes away from the roads might be useful.
I won't even bother to scream "no automatic washes" for these cars. There are others here who will handle that. I always believed that a "touchless" automatic wash would be OK. That was before my car was assaulted by one. It carved up the right rear quarter pretty bad. The laser sensors were not set low enough to detect the rear quarter panel. It shot the rear quarter glass and came in about 8 inches early. The car is still seeing a therapist.
996 in the winter - Salt?
I never salt my 996. I don't have any issues, but I try to wash any off... just make sure if you're using a self service pressure washer you gentle was the salt away otherwise it will scratch the paint.
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Yes, picked it up in Jan. 2004 and drove it home from Boston to NY.... been driving it every winter since. With snow tires it's as good as anything else on the road.
I didn't do anything special to the undercoat except get that crap at the carwash.
DD drove my 996 for 3 years. Used Blizzak LM-25's in the winter and never undercoated. Salt is used heavily in my area. No problems what so ever. No noticeable damage to the under body or paint (except arguably more rock chips on the front from the sand used with the salt). I do use the touchless car washes that offered under body spray/washin frequently in the winter. Drive and enjoy.
For what its worth most car washes use filtered recycled water for their rinse cycle. In the winter your car is getting a nice diluted saline under-body rinse. I park the 987 after the first salt and don't bring it out until we get a nice rain storm to wash all that crap off the road. Titan and Wrangler in the winter!
The car wash I go to uses natural imported spring water which is cleansed via a reverse osmosis system to purify the water before it goes through a UV filter and finally a triple filtration containment system.
Since about the mid 80's Porsche has used double galvanized steel (that may not be the right terminology, but you get the idea). The bodies really don't rust anymore unless damaged. I agree with others that it may still be a good idea to avoid the salt if you can, however. It can't really be good for the working parts of any car.
Undercoating has not been recommended for quite a few years by most German manufacturers. They claim that it may do more harm than good by trapping miniscule pockets of air or moisture. I think some of them may void their rust-through warranties if you undercoat. Even after it was discouraged by most domestic manufacturers, some dealers continued to try to sell undercoating (along with paint and fabric protection packages) as an added profit item.
You should visit Europe in winter - there's salt on our roads for at least three months of every year and most Porsches are daily drivers here. They are made to cope and do admirably. In fact I'd be more worried about the effects of the sun on dash and paint in parts of US - not something we get enough in Northern Europe!
The underside of my 87 928 looks like new (except for a few rusty bolts and brackets) and has never been power washed or had any additional protection. And the 996 and 997 is even better protected. There is no doubt that no salt is better than salt, but I wouldn't let it stop me using the car. Better salt than black ice!
Forget it, enjoy the car and think carefully about aftermarket coatings which can, as pointed out above, do more harm than good. Risk benefit ratio poor IMHO.
