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YOUR RESEARCHThoughts?? 996 TT Cab or 997 C4S or C2S Cab
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lets run a 997 C4s with same down payment/price point against my turbo....
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Have you test driven both cars (996tt and 997 C2S)?
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Perhaps I should hold onto my 996 cab for another year and wait for a few used 997 TT cabs to show up in the market...I just have a tough time justifying buying a new one knowing that I will be dropping 10-20% as soon as i drive her off the lot.
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The 996turbo makes up the weight by using hollow wheels.
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Perhaps I should hold onto my 996 cab for another year and wait for a few used 997 TT cabs to show up in the market...I just have a tough time justifying buying a new one knowing that I will be dropping 10-20% as soon as i drive her off the lot.
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I have the "itch" to make a move from my 99' 996 cab.
I am looking at either a used 996 TT Cab or a used 997 C4s or C2s Cab. Any thoughts? Price is about the same. Is it worth passing on the additional HP to get into the 997? Thoughts of resale down the road? I really like the look of the 997 and the interior as well but the 996 TT with the vents is really not to hard to look at!
I only drive on nice, top down days so I don't put a lot of miles on. I know I will be having the "itch" again in a few years so resale is important.
Thanks!
Nice top down days are usually dry weather days so you probably don't need AWD. Have you test driven both cars (996tt and 997 C2S)? I personally don't think the additional 60hp are worth it passing on the updated car (997), so I'd go for a 997C2S (if possible with PASM and sport chrono plus).
after having driven the 997TT i could never ever begin to consider the 996TT. the c4s is as fast as the 996tt in the straights sans lag.
with that said, i'd go for the 997C4S or save up a bit more for the GTThrizzle.
Ben,
really?...hmm, what straights are you talking about; the track? Because, I was at Mosport last Wednesday and on the back straight even when I came out of turn 5 faster than them, the 2 box stock 996TT that were there would reel me in pretty quickly and I'd have to let them by and I was going flat out in my C4S. I don't think that the 997C4S is that much faster than the 996 version...but I might be wrong.
Now in the curves, it's a different story and the lighter 996C4S might have a
slight
advantage over the 996TT.
I like the 996TT, but I prefer the 996C4S. Best looking 996 IMHO and PLENTY fast on the street and on the track for even the above average driver.
Click on User CP, then Buddy/Ignore Lists, then add Benjamin Choi in your Ignore List.
The BS is smelling all the way over here from these wanna-be kids driving their father's cars.
My opinion on the 996TT/997, etc... the 996TT is heavier than the 996 C4S...but the 997 C4S is heavier than the 996 C4S. If you want light and fun that looks good, a 997 C2S Aero might be "it."
996 TT is a better platform for mods, and has already gone through a longer depreciation period.
Depends on how much HP you want. Not a lot of chance to go in excess of 500HP with the normally aspirated 997.
if resale is important, then go with the 996...it's already taken the major hit.
However, the interior of the 997s is much nicer (IMO) and you may be happier cruising around in the newer car. Also, since you're looking exclusively at cabs, I'm assuming that all-out speed is not the primary concern, but having fun and cruising with the top down. Also, warranty issues may come into play.
IMO, it sounds like you'd be happier with a 997. Amongst those 2, I'd go with the 997 C4S---looks super schhhweeeett!
Good luck, pics are required once you make your choice!
True! Sad, but true!
Unfortunately, having Ben on my
Ignore list
dosen't help much if you guys keep "quoting" his posts. Then I still have to read his BS!
996 turbo gives you performance, and if you are into modifying, then I have to say the turbo will give you a lot of potential. Thats the route I took and I have not looked back...
But for styling, and not considering performance.... the 997 may be the one to go for. Sorry for the vague answer, but that is really what it boils down to.
Honestly I can understand why you�re asking, but at the end of the day you have to do what makes most sense to you. Whatever one you buy...996 or 997 make sure you get a PPI. In response to one member ...My TT does not lag power anywhere.... Pull beside and Ill show you how much lag my TT has.
I went from 996 to 997CS. The turbo has never been all the appealing to me for whatever reason. I just prefer the 2 wheel natural aspiration. Anyway, to me I think the interior upgrades to the 997 are worth it. I am 6'4 and the seat location in the 997 has made head room and seat position much better for me. I also like the more streamlines dash of the 997. Unless you really want the speed of the turbo which I can totally understand that need then I personally would prefer the 997S version. However, i don't think there is a wrong choice. It is about what fits your needs best.
Ben, there's a reason no one takes anything you say seriously...
Anyhow, I drove the 997 CarreraS, THEN I drove the Turbo. No question, Turbo was my choice.
Also, 996TT and C4S are the same weight.
Are you sure about that?
Think about it... they're both the same body and chassis but the TT has two intercoolers, two turbos, and extra piping.
You're telling me it weighs the same as a C4S w/o any of that stuff?
Flat-6.net shows the 996TT at 3396lbs, and the C4S at 3241lbs. I don't want to argue actual weight but instead, look at the RELATIVE weights.
How can a 996TT with the extra parts weigh the same as a N/A C4S?
I just went from a C4 cab to an X-50 TT Cab. In a word, WOW!!. And for a few $$, I can chip it and have as much power as the 997TT. There are some great deals to be had on the 996TT as most of them have already taken a big hit on price. Go for the TT. You won't be sorry.
That's consistent with flat-6.net's 996TT weight... maybe Edmunds assumed it's the same for the C4S since they're the same body.
It's not believable due to my reasons above.
Dude, no way a turbo and fittings are 150Lbs. I believe it's closer to 30 Lbs total. The 996turbo makes up the weight by using hollow wheels.
Edit: Info I found weight on a 997 Turbo Turbocharger unit, "The turbocharger weighs 15 pounds and is made from 57 individual components. ".
http://www.europeancarweb.com/featur...9_history.html
A 996TT unit is around 3 to 7lbs more at the most.
GG
02+ TT have solid spoke wheels like the C4S's (02+). Like I said, I don't want to argue actual weights but instead, RELATIVE weights.
They talk about JUST the turbos. They don't talk about the intercoolers and piping. So, if the 996TT turbos are more than 15lbs JUST for the turbos, if you add the intercoolers and piping... it would be ALOT more than "just" 30lbs more.
2 turbos @ 15lbs = 30lbs already
2 intercoolers = ?
Extra radiator = ?
Piping = ?
It goes back to the point that the 996TT and the C4S are not the same weight given similar options (wheels, leather, etc).
FYI....the TT weighs more. It's not just the turbos that make it a TT.
Even today the same thing holds true. The TT comes in at roughly 250# more than the C4S.
Thanks for the input and the entertaining side bar conversations as well. I have to admit that the shallow side of me really prefers the newer look of the 997 and the interior is much nicer. So unless I can find a deal that I just can't pass up on a 996TT cab (Carrera White or Guards Red with Tan interior)...then I am going go 997 hunting!
What i have found so far is a new 997 Turbo Cab isn't really that much more than a 997 C4S cab comparable options (Bose, GPS, etc.) since the Turbo Cab has alot of standards that are options on the other 997's. Perhaps I should hold onto my 996 cab for another year and wait for a few used 997 TT cabs to show up in the market...I just have a tough time justifying buying a new one knowing that I will be dropping 10-20% as soon as i drive her off the lot.
I haven't started any negotiations yet on a new one so it could be that the dealer will negotiate more on a C4S than on a TT...that may point me one way or the other as well.
996 info is from the Edmunds web site
996 C4S Coupe = 3,240 pounds
997 TT Coupe = 3,388 pounds
Difference = 148 pounds
997 info is from the Porsche web site
997 C4S Coupe = 3,157 pounds
997 TT Coupe = 3,494 pounds.
Difference = 337 pounds.
I guess that crappy M96 wet pumper is the same as the GT1 M64 dry pumper???
Come on Gant, you should know better. YOu have had both and clearly have the more superior one now
[QUOTE=gota911;4619221]996 info is from the Edmunds web site
996 C4S Coupe = 3,240 pounds
997 TT Coupe = 3,388 pounds
Difference = 148 pounds
Surprised that a turbo would make that much of a weight diff. considering it IS the ONLY difference between the C4S and the TT.
Like I said in the previous page, you just have to stop and think about it for a second and it will make sense.
Now if we all had GT3's, this wouldn't a problem!
The Used TT Cabs around here are still damn expensive... almost the same as a new C2S Cab.
I tried a 996 TT and 997C4S Cab and it was obvious which one i liked better.
The 997S just seemed more enjoyable to drive, sounded better, looked better and felt nicer inside.
The TT was very fast, but seemed so effortless that it didnt seem you were going so quick until you saw the speedo numbers. Sitting inside it seemed EXACTLY like my 996 C4.... didnt seem special
Ive never driven a TT Cab though
