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YOUR RESEARCHGet to the track!
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For me the most important thing was the brakes, too, but their problem was the wheels/tires were too small.
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But the level of excitement and willingness to drop the cost of an RMS repair for 10-12 hp is pretty wild.
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I've been watching the RSS plenum threads with amusement. I�ve got nothing against modifying 996s. Hell, my n/a 99/04 996 has 320 rwhp/370 crank hp so obviously I�ve done a change or two myself. I also have nothing against the RSS plenum. It looks like a pretty good mod. But the level of excitement and willingness to drop the cost of an RMS repair for 10-12 hp is pretty wild.
So here�s my go fast tip of the day. For those that haven�t already, get your cars to the track. For the cost of the RSS mod PCA or POC or whoever can provide you with a great instructor and a couple weekends of track time that will make you and your car much faster than any mod can hope to. I regularly spanked poorly driven cup cars with my 996. Conversely, last year I got beat by an early eighties 911 SC in the rain at Mid-Ohio.
It�s all about the driver guys. If the drivers are equal, then it�s all about the suspension. If the drivers and the suspension are equal, then it�s all about weight. If all of those are equal, then it�s all about braking. Then, and only if the gap is substantial, is it about the horsepower.
Just my 2 cents,
Jim
Agreed to a certain extent, but some of us have no interest in the track.
The RSS plenum is great, but the car will still get manhandled by a TT or 3.8 so it's like who cares?
Fair point Jim!
I know from my DE events that my car is fast enough for me as a driver and being faster on the track is only very low correlated to hp. My car is way too fast on the street; especially if I consider the speed limits and the dense population of cops.
IMO the most important upgrade for track use on a stock 996 are the brakes, followed by the suspension. I've only had issues with my brakes on the track, never with too less hp.
However, I do both: I go to the track and spend money on mods.
Both is fun!
Let me put it another way. Take two equal drivers in two equal 99 996s. Have one spend $800 on DE/training and have the other jump into the group buy for the plenum. The DE guy with the stock car will be faster than the guy with the plenum. Faster going straight, faster stopping, faster turning, etc, etc.
And as a bonus, there's about a 50% chance the DE guy will come away with a bunch of new freinds and a lifelong hobby. Even if he/she decides its not something they want to do again, they'll have a few great stories and be a faster/safer street driver.
I'm really not knocking the plenum or any other mods. I love that stuff. Just making a plug for getting your car to the track where you can test it's abilities and your's.
Jim
p.s. Both the PCA and Grand Am Koni series require that you leave the stock brakes on the cars so they've proven effective in races lasting up to 6 hours.
Jim, I really should have spent the money preparing my car for the track. I can't wait to take it there. Unfortunately, my 996 is about 100hp down from my previous track car. I'm sure the Porsche will eventually be faster on the track....but I miss the power on the street!
Jim, have a great weekend. I'm jealous...I miss the people even more then the fun on the track. I used to run with the local Shelby Club. I'm sure Porsche people will be equally hospitable.
"It�s all about the driver guys. If the drivers are equal, then it�s all about the suspension. If the drivers and the suspension are equal, then it�s all about weight. If all of those are equal, then it�s all about braking. Then, and only if the gap is substantial, is it about the horsepower."
Just my 2 cents,
Jim[/QUOTE]
Jim,
Great advice. Worth well more than 2 cents maybe the price of a Plenum
zoo
Have fun Ray and Jim! I'm jealous! But in 2 week's I'll be on the track again:
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(Shenandoah Circuit) - less demanding on my brakes than their main circuit.
"Autobahn" ... good key word Ray: this reminds me that if you want to be faster than the rest on the German Autobahn, everything is about horsepower. I wish I'd have had a Porsche when I lived back in Europe.
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