Fabspeed Style Exhaust

Guys, there are a ton of Fabspeed Style Exhaust Systems for the 996 on ebay with a starting price of $650. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fabsp...QQcmdZViewItem The word "Style" indicates to me that they are re-built parts. Are they junk or worth to consider? What do you think? Thanks, Harold

Style means knock-offs.

I'd stay away from Ebay when it comes to parts like that for my car. I'd sooner spend the extra money and get a good quality product from a reputable site.

The seller is VividRacing also a member here. I see no reason to be concerned. SHould be easy to call them and figure out what they are selling.

Why would you not be concerned when a seller says Fabspeed "style" exhaust? I don't care who sells them and if they are a board sponsor or not, "style" tells me cheap aisan knockoff that the vendor is making a nice profit margin on hoping to use the name "FABSPEED" in the title when it isn't. Just how in the heck it is Fabspeed anything is beyond me.

Geez let me restate that a little clearer. I would not be concerned with purchasing from Vividracing, a legitimate outfit who is also represented on this Board. Also, it would be fairly simply to get in touch with Vivid and find out exactly what product they are selling as "Fabspeed Style". FYI: vividracing carries FabSpeed exhausts among other brands that you should recognize. I agree that it is pretty odd to say "Style".

You mean the same Vivid Racing that seems to NEVER answer questions on this board when members are inquiring about a product? Only thing you ever get form them is "email me" or "call me" and we can discuss it. Dan over at Vivid seems like a good guy but just NEVER seems to be stright up when people ask about the products he peddles here. Whether it be pricing or specs, you just don't get them. And for them to use Fabspeed's name to sell a non-Fabspeed product is wrong.

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Great. This is what I get for trying to help someone out by providing them with some info. Let me recommend you take up your concerns with vivid and fabspeed. With that, I think I'll go for a ride in my car and get back to real life. Oh, and happy new year.

I have no concerns with Vivid so I have no need to call them. The OP asked a question to which I gave you a response. You said not to be concerned and told you why to be concerned. Enjoy your spin around the block. I'll think I'll do the same. This board is turning my brain into mush

Concerning the exhaust they are selling as fab/spd style, if you click on the banner that says "see exhaust in motion" the link states agency power at the top. These exhaust are agency power. FWIW. JW

If they are indeed Agency Power mufflers then why not just say so? Why the hell call it "Fabspeed Style?" I'd stay away from this one -- deceptive marketing practices are a red flag for me.

Exhaust from Fabspeed itself is only $900, so I wouldn't chance it.

The reality is, both Fabspeed and Vivid Racing get their exhaust systems from over seas. The rest is marketing and for those who are not familiar with a particular company's product, the marketing material is all you have to go with. While you are chancing what you're getting with the exhaust that these guys are selling, they have a reputation to uphold also as they are both well known among rennlisters and 6speed'ers. While both F and VR probably don't get their parts from the same factory overseas, I would not be suprised if they are fairly close in design. If you want an exhaust, and if you want to save a little bit of money, and if you don't care if what your putting on has the word Fabspeed or Agency Power (Vivid's brand) etched on it, then just buy the generic. Most people, including you yourself, will probably not know the difference. If fitment is an issue, which is highly unlikely, I'm sure these companies have return policies that they stand by.

Hence the reason I went with the PSE. Just not worth it for me to save a few bucks. For all you know, the inferior (or unknown) design could actually be detrimental to your car's performance.

Dell, you have a PSE? I thought it doesn't work on the GT3. What are your impressions on the sound? Did you install the switch too?

I would bet that they are indeed Agency Power Exhausts. I would also wager that this is a way to get around a minimum pricing agreement....

PSE on 996CAB. Sound is AWESOME! No switch.

oh thats right, forgot about the cab. Thanks.

Ebay sucks. Too many sharks swimming in the pool these days. It was great a while back but now it's just standing in line to be disappointed or screwed.

You ain't kidding Dallas. I remember when I got my 996CAB several years back and would find good stuff on eBay all the time. Back then roughly 2-300 items under "Porsche 996" and nowadays well over 1K items. Mostly crap and misrepresentations. I haven't bought ANYTHING off eBay in quite some time for the car.

You sure? I have been looking at the Fabs, and the website should makes it sound like they are made in the U.S.

Personally I do quite well on Ebay. In fact, that is where most of Christmas shopping came from this year. I bought my Fabspeed exhaust used for less than $600 shipped off Ebay (less than the "Fabspeed Style Exhaust") and no problems. You just need to understand how to read posts, seller ratings and how to handle any problems. Is there a lot of crap on Ebay? Yes, but you don't have to buy it...like those $250 996 headers.

I am also curious on this also - I am looking for exhaust for my 99 C2 - Fabspeed, Vtek, Agency Power all seem to be in the 750-1050 dollar range...but which brand will suite me? I know there are cheaper out there but I am fearful these are the ones that will not hold up as cheap imitations...

All that crap comes from China. There was a post early this year about that. ONe of the guys was pissed when he found out that his "made in the USA" cans came from China. Take a look at the Fabspeed advertisements now, they don't say a thing about made in the USA but they sure do have their American flags posted!

Is made in China always worse than made in the USA? Just a thought; BTW, in the 19th century the classification "Made in Germany" was used in the UK to warn of cheep and bad manufactured German products but as time changes "Made NOT in Germany" qualifies a lot of crap nowadays (incl. beer ).

I bought a Fabspeed muffler from Vivid racing and found them to be unresponsive when I had questions. The muffler was drop shipped from Fabspeed in Pennsylvania. I'm happy with the muffler but I'm sure there are other suppliers out there. Regarding the "Fabspeed style" I don't know what that means but Tubi "style" mufflers, the high end Italian folks only market the "style" whatever that means. Regarding shooting craps with eBay I think I would rather do that in Vegas. If you ever try to return one of those things you really have to hold your breath.