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After pulling out the plenum tube the disconnected hose was sitting on top of the starter.
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I reconnected the tube but it slid out easily due to warping from time and heat.
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Replace alternator and all the pulleys
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Last week I replaced my alternator and all the pulleys, so I had easy access to the filler tube, but it seemed in good condition so I did not do it.
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Replace starter last weekend
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Use those caps
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Nicely done...I use those caps to cover the sprinkler system when the back-flow valve is removed for the winter....
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I did a temporary repair job using 1.5 Inch Fernco Rubber Cap and because it was possible it would melt - I converted inside and outside in Aluminum tape rated up to 300 F
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hi guys,
was putting a little bit of oil into my car this morning and broke the oil filler tube by accident, must be old and dry...
i heard there is new oil filler tube replacement, anyone know more about it?
any part number and price?
also, how easy it is to change it?
any DIY?
thanks a lot
sebastien,
happy to hear that it brakes, i wasnt proud of myself
ive looked a little bit in the engine compartment
seems i need to remove my kn airbox, alternator and belt...
a DIY would be nice..
the tube is attached to a *clamp* and i have to remove it to fill the oil, when i pulled it out, it just broke in my hands... hehe not lucky
ive did a search but no DIY with pictures and complete instructions...
Oh this is a pain in the *** with the engine in.
Yes you have to remove all that stuff, airbox, alternator, plus the T/B and the T-plenum behind it. Then you will be able to access the
TWO
bolts that holds it down to the top of the block. One on the block and the other on the P/S pump/pulley cage.
From the WSM:
You'll need a new o-ring (block side), a new cap, and the filler neck.
99610715061 tube
99970734840 oring (use dilectric grease on it)
99610703552 new cap
BTW, look what literally just "fell off" when I dropped my engine a while back.
She must have known I had a new one prepped for her.
You can tape it up tight with good duct tape and still drive the car. Mine broke on a Saturday morning at the track and I raced with it taped up all weekend....
started the job for a little 10minutes today,
kn airbox is out and serpentine belt is out,
i found myself a DIY on how to remove the alternator and tb,
just want to confirm that i need to remove both to get to the filler tube,, right?
You can try to get a socket in there, but I'm not sure if you'll be able to without removing the throttle body and perhaps plenum behind it. Both of those are really simple so I'm not sure it's worth struggling to complete it without following the workshop manual (reference my post above). Those items are just a few bolts, electrical connections, and hose clamps... removing the alternator is way more a PITA than removing the T/B and plenum behind it. At the very least you would need a mirror and very small hands. So I think the WSM is pretty accurate when it says to remove the alternator, T/B and plenum behind it. At that point any person should have "reasonably" good access to the two bolts (albeit might still require a mirror, flashlight, and small hands).
thanks for all the info guys, i will get back to you today or tomorrow when i continu to work on the car
ps: pissing me off as i have a new set of wheels coming and i wanted to try them this weekend hehe
You might have a difficult time removing the alternator without first disconnecting the wires in the back of the unit. In order to do so you may need to remove the throttle body and/or plenum behind it. Removing the throttle body is a 5-10 minute task, at most. And unless you have a one piece intake plenum, removing the plenum behind the throttle body is another 5-10 minutes of work.
Also it may be difficult to detect cracks in the filler tube without a smoke machine. Since it's such an inexpensive part, if you're already in there - might as well replace it.
saturday 9th, i can say that the job is done and i'm proud of my patience haha
the job is pretty straight forward, i found a DIY and followed the instructions,
first timer for the serpentine. alternator and TB
major pita #1: align the alternator, took like 30mins, the DIY was saying to bolt the right bolt, wrong!
i tried like that and wasted my time, bolt the left bolt first!!
major pita#2: put back the plenum, i ripped all my fingers, took 30mins also and lot of bad bad words!
new parts and broken one:
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Nice work. Told you the generator was a pain in the *** compared with the other stuff!
In order to avoid knuckle busting on the intake distributor plenum, if you move each rubber sleeve as far to the left and right as you can - then with gloves on pull it out at an angle it usually is not as tough.
Nice. I had mine done when my Power steering pump went...talk about pain in the ****...whoever made that housing on the pump..ugh...
where's your "fresh air" tube for you K&N intake?
I completed my replacement today ...
My alternator was a pain to removed. As I tap on it to turn it clockwise for removal, I accidentally hit into the AOS (air-oil separator) and broke the connector ... spilling and draining my coolant. I was a not a happy camper. For those who wants to undertake this project ... watch out for that.
Here is what it is ...
http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic...olant-problem/
Once I removed the alternator, the rest was straight forward. The 2 bolts holding the oil filler tube are visible and I was able to remove them without removing the throttle body.
I called the local Toronto dealer for a replacement AOS and the part is $6 and the 4 litre coolant is $42. I told the dealer to set them aside and I will have my wife pick them up on her way back from work.
I've decided to change the engine oil as well. I'll tackle the spark plug replacement this weekend.
All in all, the project took me about 3 hours.
Haha. I did just the opposite. I replaced the starter last weekend. Last thing I needed to do was snap the filler tube into the airbox and it broke in half. Now I have to take it all apart again.
If it's any comfort, the starter isn't nearly the pain in the *** people make it out to be.
We should make a checklist of "stuff" to do while in there for anyone approaching 80,000+ miles:
Remove all the stuff in the way...check
Replace starter...check
Replace AOS...check
Replace Oil Filler Tube...check
Replace serpentine belt...check
Replace water pump...check
Replace thermostat...check
Replace air filter....check
Change oil....check
Refill fluids...check
Fire and have fun....check!
Last week I replaced my alternator and all the pulleys, so I had easy access to the filler tube, but it seemed in good condition so I did not do it. This morning with the temp at about 6F degrees I went to add some oil and the tube cracked off. Damn! A local dealer has one so time to go back in, not much fun when it is only supposed to be 25F today.
You know what happened to me. Be careful get the inside bolt out before you pull the filler tube and it drops in to the engine. This was the original thread that had me add the filler tube to the PM list when I did the AOS, WP, etc, even though mine was fine. I did not want to have to worry about it at a later date. The new design is different from the original, and it appears they deleted the location where the old ones typically snapped.
I still need to get mine replaced. Right now have some duct tape on it that is working fine. Mine broke where the oil filler tube clamps in so not a big deal for me. I think the dealer wants something like $500 to replace it............DOH!!
Just broke my filler next while changing out the air filter. I just found a small chunk of hose (actually the gas fill hose from my 71 911) and pressed both ends in there. Was a tight fit... so hopefully it will stay put till I have time to do the job right (although I see from this thread its a PITA to do...!)
Thanks for this thread. I was pretty disappointed in myself when the oil filler snapped off at the same spot while doing the routine DIY air filter clean. It's comforting to know I'm not as spastic as I had thought. It's also a relief to drive normally with duct tape until parts arrive. New oil caps are black, so if you have an older yellow one, perhaps a pre-emptive replacement item on next belt/alternator service call.
So mine cracked after moving the airbox and figured to get it done before the vacuum leak ruined something else. After searching for the replacement part, there is a later retrofit from the 997. Part No. 997.107.131.00. I got a new O-ring and Oil cap like everyone else suggested. Not really sure why a new cap is needed but I just followed the herd.
All from Pelican Parts.
Oil Cap - $14
Oil Filler Tube - $49.50
O Ring - $4.75
Air Filter - $22.50
1. Remove Airbox - Easy
2. Remove serpentine belt - Easy (Need a 24mm socket)
3. Remove the vacuum hose bracket for the Brake Boosters above the Alternator. Easy
3. Remove Alternator
3a. What can I say. Everyone else b!+ched about it and I will too. Now that i've removed it 3x it's cakewalk. On the right bolt (the long one); you remove it, take out the idler pulley, put the bolt back in without the pulley and whack it with a hammer a few times to push the pressed-in nut out a bit. This will give about 2mm slack to wiggle the alternator out. Disconnect the 2 wires behind it and it should pop right out.
4. The cracked Oil filler tube is removed and the new one is replaced. Oil the new O-ring and be patient. When the tube is put in properly, it will sit almost flush with the top of the engine. If it's not flush, then it's not properly seated. It took me about 10 minutes of twisting, turning, and shouting before it seated. Those darned new O-Rings
. I see the torque for the bolts as around 7 ft-lbs. I always just finger tightened it by hand and went about a quarter turn more with the ratchet. Yes the block is aluminum so you can easily strip the threads.
5. Of course in my zest to install the alternator, it pushed a vacuum tube in and when I pulled it to align with a connector, I pulled it out completely! This was the Brake Booster hose. After pulling out the plenum tube the disconnected hose was sitting on top of the starter. I reconnected the tube but it slid out easily due to warping from time and heat. I sprayed some loctite adhesive on the male end of the tube and the tube was snug when I reconnected.
Reconnected everything and all is working. Been on for 300 miles and nary a problem. Thank you all for your input!
I did a temporary repair job using 1.5 Inch Fernco Rubber Cap and because it was possible it would melt - I converted inside and outside in Aluminum tape rated up to 300 F
Fingers crossed it holds up.
1-1/2 in. PVC DWV Flexible Cap
https://www.homedepot.com/p/100372302