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YOUR RESEARCHFront Brakes 2003 C4S

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Replace pads and rotors

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I had both pads and rotors replaced at all 4 corners each time.

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Check rennlist too

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I'll check rennlist too.

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Check rennlist too

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I'll check rennlist too.

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Check thickness left

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as dell says, check the thickness left and inspect for cracks, but otherwise i would just replace the pads

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Clean bolts first

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If heavily contaminated, clean bolts first with a lint-free cloth.

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Inspect cracks

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as dell says, check the thickness left and inspect for cracks, but otherwise i would just replace the pads

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Check rennlist too

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I'll check rennlist too.

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Check thickness left

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as dell says, check the thickness left and inspect for cracks, but otherwise i would just replace the pads

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Clean bolts first

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If heavily contaminated, clean bolts first with a lint-free cloth.

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Inspect cracks

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as dell says, check the thickness left and inspect for cracks, but otherwise i would just replace the pads

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Recommend rotor and pad

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Dealerships have a tendency to recommend both rotor and pad change, not just because it means more money, but because it's the best way to assure good brakes and avoid any legal hassles should anything happen in this litigenous society of ours.

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Replace already done

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I've had several changes already done.

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Replace calipers , i believe

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The C4S like the Turbo has quick change calipers , I believe,

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Replace not just

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Dealerships have a tendency to recommend both rotor and pad change, not just because it means more money, but because it's the best way to assure good brakes and avoid any legal hassles should anything happen in this litigenous society of ours.

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Replace pads

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Suggestion · Original poster

I'll measure their thickness when I change pads.

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

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as dell says, check the thickness left and inspect for cracks, but otherwise i would just replace the pads

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

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In the absence of either, you can keep the rotors and just change the pads.

Front Brakes 2003 C4S

Replace pads and rotors

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I had both pads and rotors replaced at all 4 corners each time.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My dealer told me my car will need front brakes very soon. The dealer just did my 30,000 service. They want $1,000 to do front pads and rotors. He said rotors have to be done at the same time according to Porsche. Question: Is this true? Doesn't $1,000 seem high for front brakes only. Who sells Porsche rotors and pads cheaply? Should I change to EBC green pads which are easier on rotors? Does everyone change pads and rotors every 30,000. The dealer said they do. I'm not hard on brakes, no tracking etc. I'm inclined to just change the pads out for EBC green. The C4S like the Turbo has quick change calipers , I believe, Thanks everyone.

POST 2Original post

I've had several changes already done. I had both pads and rotors replaced at all 4 corners each time. Is it necessary to chnage both pads and rotors? Quick answer is no. But since I track the car, I don't want to have any doubts about the brakes. Dealerships have a tendency to recommend both rotor and pad change, not just because it means more money, but because it's the best way to assure good brakes and avoid any legal hassles should anything happen in this litigenous society of ours. Rotors have to be changed if there are cracks that go through and through and communicate two or more of the holes, or if the rotors are worn down to a point. In the absence of either, you can keep the rotors and just change the pads. At 30K miles of all street driving, you can probably get away with just changing the pads. As far as cost, I think it cost me $1200.00 for all 4 each time.

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Two things concerning your rotors: 1. Have you visually inspected them to verify for cracks, etc? 2. Have them SHOW you with a micrometer the rotor measurements and then post back. Personally I doubt you need rotors as the rotors on these cars are VERY durable unless you are tracking the car hard which would necessitate changing them more often. As for the pads, you can DIY this VERY cheaply. Here are prices posted on Suncoast's website for a C4S. Probably get all of this a bit cheaper from Sunset. But still, you get the idea. Fronts: Pads $168 Rotors $295 for both Rears: Pads $112 Rotors $268 for both According to them, they are charging you over $500 for install on just one axle? Just DIY and have $$$ left over to wine and dine the special lady in your life (and the results afterward are much better)

POST 4Original post

Just do pads. They are so easy you can do it yourself. If you aren't comfortable with it, just a shop to do it with 1 hr labor. If the stock pads served you well, get it from a dealer or call around a few shops online for stock pads. OEM pads are made by textar I think. allgermanparts.com sells Pagid and Textar for less than dealer. You can reuse the sensor if the brake wear light hasn't come on. If in doubt, just replace the sensors as well.

POST 5Original post

The OE suppliers will not sell the same pad compound aftermarket that they supply to Porsche.

POST 6Original post

Suncoast porsche, 876$ 4 rotors, all pads, 1.5 hr DIY.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks everyone. I thought $1,000 just for fronts was too much also. I'll just order new pads from Suncoast. Question: does it take a soecial tool for rear pads because of the emergency brake? Also, has anyone tried the EBC green pads? I think EBC is the correct brand. Thanks as usual.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'll measure their thickness when I change pads. Anyone know the required thickness of the C4S rotors?

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I found a set of pads at Suncoast for $112. The set of rotors is $229. $341 for the rotors and pads. Does anyone know what to torque the rotors at when I put them on?

POST 10Original post

63 ft lbs I believe, you'll need a special torx bit/socket, actually an easy diy, no special tools for the e brake. Check out renntech, they have a nice diy section with pics. If you're gonna do rotors, do all 4.

POST 11Original post

Make sure those are for the C4S which they are NOT at the prices you posted. Sounds like the prices for the C2/C4.

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Brake disc to wheel hub (M6) 10Nm (7.5 ft-lb) Brake caliper on front and rear axles (M12 x 1.5) 85Nm (63 ft-lb) For the caliper bolts, " Thinly grease thread, shank and under head (between screw head bearing surface and spherical cap ring) of the wheel bolts with Optimoly TA (aluminum paste). Do not grease bearing surface of the spherical cap facing the wheel. If heavily contaminated, clean bolts first with a lint-free cloth. " The part numbers for the MY02+ C4S brakes; 996-351-409-02 front (left) 996-351-410-02 front (right) 996-352-949-12 set of brake pads 996-352-405-00 rear (left) 996-352-406-00 rear (right) 996-352-949-02 set of brake pads the rear pads will eventually change to part #996-352-949-03 when #996-352-949-02 is out of stock.

POST 13Original post

The NY Porsche dealers quoted me $1300 for front brakes and rotors. I've decided to do this job myself...

POST 14Original post

Rob, it's actually very easy, just be sure you have everything before you start.

POST 15Original post

Very true. I will wind up getting new tools, toolbox, new lights for the garage, of course I'll need a new garage floor then I'll paint the garage and buy storage racks, then I'll want a new lift so I'll have that installed. After 2 months and spending $20,000 rebuilding my entire garage, I wont have time for the brakes and I'll take them in to get them done.

POST 16Original post

I think the stealer is trying to fleece you. I very much doubt you need rotors at 30k miles. car and driver reported on their long term 996 that they did i think 80k miles on that the discs were virtually indestructible (not pccbs) as dell says, check the thickness left and inspect for cracks, but otherwise i would just replace the pads

POST 17Original post

I've had two different dealers tell me I need new rotors on both my 2001 and 2004... seems par for the course. The parts are about $320, I would pay them $450 or $500 parts included but $1300 for just front brakes and rotors - that's just robbery.

POST 18 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

$1,000 for dealer to do fronts. LVDELL, that is the price for a 2003 C4S. A c2/4 was even less cost. Thanks everyone. I'll check rennlist too.

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