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YOUR RESEARCHFull Leather yes/no why?
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I have full leather and the only issue is when doing DE's with windows down rules and it's raining...
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A sound system is far more important than leather to me, yet I bought this car anyway knowing that changing a MOST system was going to entail more money than I could justify.
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A sound system is far more important than leather to me, yet I bought this car anyway knowing that changing a MOST system was going to entail more money than I could justify.
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I am looking for A 2002 -2003 996 cab I am in San Francisco lots of used porsches for sale buyers market big time,used full leather does not add that much to the price of the car if you buy from the owners themselfs takeing my time looking for the right car thats way I asked Lvdell.
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A sound system is far more important than leather to me, yet I bought this car anyway knowing that changing a MOST system was going to entail more money than I could justify.
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I am looking for A 2002 -2003 996 cab I am in San Francisco lots of used porsches for sale buyers market big time,used full leather does not add that much to the price of the car if you buy from the owners themselfs takeing my time looking for the right car thats way I asked Lvdell.
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I am looking for A 2002 -2003 996 cab I am in San Francisco lots of used porsches for sale buyers market big time,used full leather does not add that much to the price of the car if you buy from the owners themselfs takeing my time looking for the right car thats way I asked Lvdell.
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I agree 100%. My buddy has an 02 without the full leather and it looks terrible in my opinion. Even my mechanic commented on how finished and high-end it looks compared to the non-leather dash.
I am looking for A 2002 -2003 996 cab I am in San Francisco lots of used porsches for sale buyers market big time,used full leather does not add that much to the price of the car if you buy from the owners themselfs takeing my time looking for the right car thats way I asked Lvdell. who would know better than A porsche owner. Thanks again
Completely agree. However, accepting this question, the clincher for full leather for me was the look of the rear seats. They're not covered in leather, but in vinyl. It just looked a little too plasticky for me....indeed, I would always leave my seats down if I had the non-full leather package.
Good point and while I would concur that DE's in the rain help learn vital skills in wet weather driving I would NOT run a DE in the rain. Skid pad and wet slamon is what I use that learning for.
IMHO, just way too many more possiblities for damage to your car in the wet than the dry.
Everyon'e mentioned the appearance, and I agree that full leather has no match. But no one's mentioned the smell! Nothing smells better than good quality leather in a fine automobile, and lots of it!
I have full supple in my '04 C4S - it was a real selling point for me.
The only thing bad about the full leather is that it makes everything else look like a compromise. I kinda got lucky this was standard in the C4S, otherwise I probably would not have ordered it. Now, any future purchases "must have" full leather.
Not quite sure I agree with the smell. German leather has a distinctive smell. Porsche has it, as well as MB and BMW. Not bad, but not quite as nice as Italian leather, or even American leather for that matter.
I went with a friend to test drive 997's. One with and one without full leather. The plastics must be better in 997's because the extra leather did not make as much an impression on me as it does in the 996.
I can't agree with all the "must have" talk here. The full leather is nicer than the standard leather, but it isn't the leather that puts a big smile on my face.
I can prove this point. A sound system is far more important than leather to me, yet I bought this car anyway knowing that changing a MOST system was going to entail more money than I could justify.
isn't leather prone to shrinkage? besides the cost, the need for add'l care would be the only other concern. i'd definitely go with full leather if i had the money.
Money wasnt the issue when I bought mine, I was just too green, The salesman asked if I wanted it and I said didnt matter just find me a car with the most important options that i needed to have. Well with the 997, I 100% made sure it had full leather...it does anyways but I asked this time