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What about weld/pinn the main sprocket to the IMS?

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We check the IMS for runout and then pin the main drive sprocket.

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Inspect actual core

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We could always send one on exchange and just charge a core charge until we have time to inspect your actual core that was submitted.

What about weld/pinn the main sprocket to the IMS?

Run solution in an ims

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We have run a solution in an IMS with .015" of runout on the bearing housing bore with no issues, however if the drive sprockets are out more than .005", we junk them.

What about weld/pinn the main sprocket to the IMS?

Use ims solution the only option

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Or is using the IMS solution the only option then?

What about weld/pinn the main sprocket to the IMS?

Use some common sense here and do what it takes

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Use some common sense here and do what it takes to avoid future problems while you're in there!

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We check the IMS for runout and then pin the main drive sprocket.

What about weld/pinn the main sprocket to the IMS?

Inspect actual core

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We could always send one on exchange and just charge a core charge until we have time to inspect your actual core that was submitted.

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Run solution in an ims

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We have run a solution in an IMS with .015" of runout on the bearing housing bore with no issues, however if the drive sprockets are out more than .005", we junk them.

What about weld/pinn the main sprocket to the IMS?

Use ims solution the only option

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Or is using the IMS solution the only option then?

What about weld/pinn the main sprocket to the IMS?

Use some common sense here and do what it takes

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Use some common sense here and do what it takes to avoid future problems while you're in there!

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Use with a ball or roller bearing

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We normally fail any shaft with more than .005" runout if going to be used with a ball or roller bearing.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi, I have read a few posts here about a possibility that the main sprocket on the IMS can slip and cause the timing of the engine to be all wrong. Looks like I might be doing an overhaul of the engine and splitting the case, would it makes sense to have a shop do this for me? Or is this an extremely rare occurrence? Seems a little fishy if the sprocket is just pressed on the shaft? I would think there would be a high torque bolt keeping everything together. thanks / Carl

POST 2Original post

Yes, it is just pressed in and has been known to slip. Use some common sense here and do what it takes to avoid future problems while you're in there!

POST 3Original post

Quotes source post: 16169143

If you send the IMS to LN Engineering they will verify the gears are properly oriented & then weld in place

POST 4Original post

Quotes source post: 16169304

We check the IMS for runout and then pin the main drive sprocket. https://lnengineering.com/rnd-store/...d-service.html Here is an example of one that visually looked just fine. Reusing this shaft would have caused an IMS failure.

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 16169665

Why was the shaft not good enough? Had it experienced a IMSB failure or some other catastrophic failure?

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 16169682

Nope, that one came out of a running engine. Bearing had not failed. It would have passed a visual inspection. We normally fail any shaft with more than .005" runout if going to be used with a ball or roller bearing.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 16169689

Ok, so what do you do in that case? Have the customer get another shaft? Or do you charge them $1000 for a core since what they send in doesn't work? Or is using the IMS solution the only option then?

POST 8Original post

Quotes source post: 16169696

We have run a solution in an IMS with .015" of runout on the bearing housing bore with no issues, however if the drive sprockets are out more than .005", we junk them. Not worth the risk. We keep a very large core bank of intermediate shafts that have been checked and pinned - probably 20 of each type or so. We usually offer them on exchange, but if a customer's core is bad, we just charge them market rate for a good core.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

so the turn around time is pretty quick?

POST 10Original post

Quotes source post: 16170243

We typically do them in batches every few weeks. Evaluation of the submitted core would be the biggest holdup. We could always send one on exchange and just charge a core charge until we have time to inspect your actual core that was submitted. Normally this isn't an issue as most people send their IMS shaft with blocks, so by the time the block comes back from plating, everything else that would accompany the block is completed and ready to go.

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